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Old Jan 28, 2001 | 04:33 AM
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There are pictures showing the Grill Guard and the Winch Mount off the Fourwheeler and on. Check it out then tell us what you think we could or you could improve on.
There are also pics up of our Rancher with a new skid plate and CV boot guards on it. It also has the rear rack extension and rifle carrier.

Thanks,Scott
 
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Old Jan 28, 2001 | 10:45 AM
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Thanks for shareing the photos, they are great i realy like that winch mount,what kind and size of winch is it? Thanks again


I will have a RUBICON soon!
 
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Old Jan 28, 2001 | 11:34 AM
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Good news, bad news, Alaskaweasel!

First, the good news: Your winch mount looks esceptionally sanitary to me; well-engineered, well made; no protrusion compromising approach angle (translation: doesn't stick out and hang you up on steep banks); also, the altitude of the winch pull point looks good; high enough to pull the wheels upward out of ruts, not too high, encouraging tipping.

Now, the bad news. The bad news is, you guys are riding without helmets.

In my opinion, you take a serious and unnecessary risk, riding without helmets, especially in the Alaska wilderness where medical care facilities may be few and fur between, as well as difficult to access.

The majority of serious and fatal ATV injuries are head injuries; why tempt fate?

Further, I understand you conduct or plan to conduct ATV tours in Alaska for hire (great idea, and I'd love the opportunity to ride with you). Now you have published for all the world to see, pictures (evidence) of your riding parties without helmets and riding double. If your clients are injured in an accident, don't you know their personal injury lawyers are going to be all over you with proof of "reckless endangerment" commonly practiced by your enterprise?

Don't shoot the messenger, I loathe the abuses of tort law (like thousands of dollars and damages awarded to a lady scalded by what? HOT coffee! How dare a restaurant serve a customer a hot beverage!). Regardless of my opinion, or of your opinion, the personal injury lawyer sharks swim in our ocean.

I assume your tour business will be insured; what does your insurance underwriter think about your parties riding without helmets and riding double, both practices discouraged by the stickers on your quads? And what do they think about your publishing actual pictures of these practices?

Don't get me wrong; I salute your engineering and fabrication skills making the winch mount; I wish you all the success in your ATV tour business enterprise; only--as one whose limited brain power and remaining teeth have been saved many times by protective headgear; PLEASE wear helmets.

Tree Farmer
 
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Old Jan 28, 2001 | 01:26 PM
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Tree Farmer: Relax, we have that covered. Your looking at or family riding pics from this summer. Not the others. They do have helmets and it isn't optional. They wear helmets because of liability and their own saftey, thanks for the concern,
Scott
 
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Old Jan 28, 2001 | 03:39 PM
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Entirely your choice about helmets, Alaskaweasel; VA requires helmets and prohibits double riding by law; maybe anything goes in AK. Still, I personally wouldn't want to risk a concussion/skull fracture in the muskeg/tundra/tioga for either a client or a family member; or even myself. My comments reflected only my concern; I respect your right to make your own decision; please consider its risk-to-gain ratio.

Regardless, best wishes for success in leading guided ATV tours; also, I believe your excellent winch mount eminently marketable.

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Old Jan 28, 2001 | 10:10 PM
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Again thanks for the concern, but there is no laws regarding doubles or helmets in any state I've rode in. Nebraska doesn't and last time I was in Colorado they didn't either.
 
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