What does higher compression do for you anyway?
#2
A stock Banshee has compression about equal to a coolhead with 23cc domes.
As far as compression, Higher compression will give you more power at all rpms. But, you must be carefull to not go too high on the compression. You can safely run around 160-170 # compression on pump 93 octane fuel. Above that, and you will have to pay a hefty premium on higher octane race fuel. If your compression is too high, and you don't use the appropriate fuel, you will have detonation problems which will rip your engine apart in no time.
As far as compression, Higher compression will give you more power at all rpms. But, you must be carefull to not go too high on the compression. You can safely run around 160-170 # compression on pump 93 octane fuel. Above that, and you will have to pay a hefty premium on higher octane race fuel. If your compression is too high, and you don't use the appropriate fuel, you will have detonation problems which will rip your engine apart in no time.
#4
I really don't want to spend fast since I don't race and I really don't need more top end. I'm looking for a little more usable torque on the bottom since I do mostly difficult slow trails. I was thinking that higher compression might help on the bottom. What size dome will bring an unmodified Banshee to the 160# range? I live in the Chicago area but I don't know the sea level here if that makes a difference.
#7
i would recommend lowering you gearing, and if you want to spend money, get a moto-fast or dynoport 2into1 pipe and silencer. it is a single pipe/silencer setup, which brings out alot of bottom and midrange, smooths out the hitting powerband, but in turn for this, you keep about the same topend as stock pipes. but if your looking for lowend this is the setup. you can also mess around with a 2into1 carb. i dont know much about these but do a search and alot of topics will come up with these.
also the 2into1 pipe sounds so awesome. i have a wav of i think bash's old banshee. i can send it to you or ask him, email me if you want it (bjjm007@aol.com). i have heard 2 in real life... both dynoports.... i love the sound and they really woke up the bottom end, the one was pulling nice wheelies shifting threw gears down the road.
also the 2into1 pipe sounds so awesome. i have a wav of i think bash's old banshee. i can send it to you or ask him, email me if you want it (bjjm007@aol.com). i have heard 2 in real life... both dynoports.... i love the sound and they really woke up the bottom end, the one was pulling nice wheelies shifting threw gears down the road.
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#9
Bumping up the compression will give you a little more low end power and might not be as strong on the top end. Too much compression can cause detonation/preignition with pump gas. You might have to run higher octane gas and/or advance timing.
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#10
I think that's a good question. At what point do you really need to switch to higher than 93 octane when you do mods. I don't ride my quad much [got messed up late summer and didn't ride much in the fall] but it's got some pretty good mods...bored carbs, carbon fiber reeds, Toomey pipes. I wouldn't mind getting some more low end grunt, if there is such a thing on a 2 stroke, but I don't want to have to switch to race gas when their talking about pump gas going up to $3.00 gal. this summer.
And doesn't elevation have something to do with the octane level you need?
And doesn't elevation have something to do with the octane level you need?



although I do understand the problem with lack of bottom end power!!