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Old May 10, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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Has anyone had one break or get soo worn out it no longer worked??
 
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Old May 10, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Specta
Has anyone had one break or get soo worn out it no longer worked??
The Renegade is doing well, but Moose One only has about 800 miles on it.

We were on a tight trail that required you to set up for the next turn while in a turn you just maed. Rocks, stumps, little steep ups and downs. Quite a workout. Moose One was behind me and then one of my buddies. Buddy smelled a burned oil type smell and I think it was the Visco Lok. I think??? it shares the engine oil or something and was getting really heated up. Not sure if it was the engine as we were going low and slow or if it was the Visco setup.
 
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Old May 13, 2011 | 06:50 AM
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Front Visco differential lock is in front differential housing with its own silicone based oil inside the Visco housing which is covered by differential oil in differential housing.

I have not had any issues with my old 2008 Outlander Max nor new Outlander Max on rocky steep crawling speed trails I ride in Utah nor I have heard anyone being able to smell the oil and accurately pinpoint smell being source from front differential.

So far on the other forums few with older machines have changed to new QE (quick engage) front differential as the reduced "on air" wheel spin helps with rock crawling etc technical riding. QE lock is not standard option as is on some models on newer Outlanders and Renegades with powersteering.
 
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Old May 13, 2011 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Specta
Has anyone had one break or get soo worn out it no longer worked??

I've owned a half dozen can-am's and never had a problem with any of'em





Seriously- I've never had any problems with the visco- they were redesigned in 08, and again in 2010- they pretty much have an instant lock-up now within 1 tire rotation or sooner. They do feel a lot different then a locking diff- especially in the snow.
 
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Old May 13, 2011 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MooseHenden
. Buddy smelled a burned oil type smell and I think it was the Visco Lok. I think??? it shares the engine oil or something and was getting really heated up.
moose- I'm pretty sure the front diff is isolated and has its own oil. I've replaced mine before with typical 80/90 lube. Had over 3000 miles on it and it looked good as new coming out.

Maybe he was smelling the cvt belt- I've noticed every now and then when I was riding it hard over rocky terrain I caught a wiff of the cvt- never caused any problems.
 
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Old May 13, 2011 | 07:47 AM
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so it would be a safe assumption that they are really trouble free?
 
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Old May 13, 2011 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Specta
so it would be a safe assumption that they are really trouble free?

It's kinda hard to tell- the "higher hp" big-bores have really only been around since 05- when can-am bought (merged) with bombardier in 07- they started getting serious about features. I pretty much won't even consider buying any can-am pre 08.
I think the front diff is pretty solid- only from my experience.
 
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Old May 13, 2011 | 10:56 AM
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So far I have not heard someone breaking the visco itself.

I know some old Volkswagen Syncro's (in Europe the Syncro van) was known from its visco awd driveline and somepoint of its life, the visco silicone needs to be changed as the oil will loose its characteristics and the differential doesn't lock anymore, but that was with cars like say, 100k miles.

Only complaint I have seen is from old models and how those need to spin the front tire several revolutions to lock while the new QE locks the front tire in 1/4 revolution or less.

My old 650 was 2008 and newer you get better you are....
 
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Old May 13, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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I know my 07 outlander works pretty good for most occasions but Ive been in some situations where one wheel does NOT pull. So mine doesn't always work. A friend just bought a new 800 and I watched his front wheels do the same,one will stop spinning in the right situation which i think is just too much pressure. If you can picture this,this is how mine stopped working and the situation I was in: Driving down into a creek/drainage ditch no wider than the atv at a slight angle. When the front left tire hit the bottom and i turned the wheel to the right so I can drive up the creek or drainage ditch,(no water,just damp and the bottom was more 'v" shaped) the left front tire has the weight on it the most and the rear wheels and right front tire would spin,but the left would not. My friend had to pull me a little to get it to grab. The bike is stock.
 
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Old May 15, 2011 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mudslinginfool
.....the left front tire has the weight on it the most and the rear wheels and right front tire would spin,but the left would not. My friend had to pull me a little to get it to grab. The bike is stock.

I had same "characteristics" on my old 2008 as the visco took so many revolutions to activate and needed steady gas to keep locked.

My new with QE locks right from idle and I tried it at the sand dunes (it dug 4 holes equally deep), on rocks and now I need to find spot where one front would need to drag whole bike forward while rest 3 would be spinning
 
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