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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 06:19 PM
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I going in for the tear down since I have a huge knock.
2003 predator 500 four stroke...
I got the two LH head bolts out but cannot break loose the two RH. I got the first little snap but thats all I get. I do not want to strip these so I walked away.

How do I break these loose without stripping them? DANG!
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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PB Blaster is a good penetrating oil if you can get it down to the cylinder threads and let it soak over night. You also may need a heat gun to heat around the cylinder base. This should loosen up stubborn bolts. Also a good 3/8 air impact can help vibrate the bolts loose if you have room to use one rather than a ratchet. OPT
 
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 09:54 PM
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X2 on the PB Blaster.........that is some good stuff. After you got that first snap while loosening did you try to tighten the bolt at all? Sometimes that works.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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I took the impact wrench to the bolts and that did the trick. The last one took it's time but it came out.

Thanks for the tips.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 08:23 AM
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Well.. the stinkin piston pin circlips were missing and the pin slid out and started scrubbing the cylinder wall. Man that make a lot of noise when that happens....

The clips are nowhere to be seen. Maybe at the bottom of the case somewhere. I got a price of 350-400 for a new sleeve install, new piston assembly and gasket kit from some joint in Ohio. My boat mechanic is recommending I go this route and he is handling the logistics. He said this is a repair kit for this engine and should work fine.

My plan now is to split the lower case and see if I can find the circlips and do some house cleaning in there. I wish I could find the clips without splitting the lower case.....
 
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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Have had that happen before when a clip wasn't installed properly and would knock out the other also and destroy a cylinder with the piston pin also. Good luck on the cylinder sleeve kit instead of having it replated. OPT
 
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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I'm not sold on the sleeve yet. Actually I'm a bit unsure of it. I see sleeve's online for this engine but not sure if its the right way to go.
I'm still considering Langcourt for a weld and replate. Probably the better way to go.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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If they supply their own pistons I would be a little leery as to having a cast iron bore also. Don't think the std Predator piston rings were designed work in a cast iron bore so you couldn't inter change if need be,plus if you had to replace this piston and rings and couldn't find a replacement,back to a replating job anyway! Best really to stay with the replated cylinder and stock piston for it I guess. The cost shouldn't be much different I would think. OPT
 
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 10:34 AM
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What brand of piston should I consider for this 03 Predator 500 engine?
Wiseco, Vertex, JE, Pro-X, SPI , Wossner.....
 
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Wiseco! 4807M09920 Product Detail Information - Wiseco Piston Inc. OPT
 
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