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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 01:12 AM
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Which would be a better motor for a 4x4 kawa's 650vtwin or yama's 660single. This is not a comparison of the quads just the motors.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 01:25 AM
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Instead of comparing the Kawie twin and the Raptor engine (they are different in too many ways), I can tell you the basic differences between the power of a twin and a single -- I think that's what you're getting at?

Two engines, one a 650cc single (four valve, dual overhead cam). The other, a 650cc twin (8 valve, single overhead cam).

The single will have more torque, rev slowly and top out at a lower rpm. For pulling power, the single would be the best.

A twin will rev more quickly, have less torque, put have a peak rpm of 2,000 to 3,000 more than the single. For quick horsepower, the twin would be best.

Hope this answers your question.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 11:00 AM
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CORRECT ME if im wrong but isnt this a HONDA forum NOT a KAWI or YAMAHA ? you will get more replies in the kawi or yamaha
 
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 11:52 AM
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The reason im putting it in the honda fourm is for non biased replies. Dont u think people wit the yama or kawi are gona favor there engine? Thanks for the replies.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 12:20 PM
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Actually a V-twin is quite a torquey motor. Kawa' has a much better 4X4 motor if you ask me.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 01:08 PM
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Pam, you stated that Yamaha's motor is the Raptor engine?? You are wrong there, it shares some designs features but it is NOT the Raptor engine. It shares the 5 valve design (not 4). It sits it at a 45 degree angle like Hondas do and it has a shaftdrive therefore no where near the Raptor engine.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 09:27 PM
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<< You are wrong there, it shares some designs features but it is NOT the Raptor engine. It shares the 5 valve design (not 4). It sits it at a 45 degree angle like Hondas do and it has a shaftdrive therefore no where near the Raptor engine. >>



I thought he was just looking for a generic, which is better, two cylinders or one type of answer.

As far as which is specifically a better engine - the kawie or the yamie, there's no way to separate a shaft-driven engine from it's chassis -- the chassis makes a big difference in how a 4x4 engine performs.

Even if you compare hp and torque numbers, it's all a moot point if the chassis design doesn't work right.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2001 | 04:34 PM
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personally i like the girzzley better (i haven't ridden either quad though) i just read the review of the grizz on wheel ATV action and it didn't get as good rating as the kawi. they both got 5 stars overall though. the grizz isn't good in mud or water they say.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2001 | 05:26 PM
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I just read that test article myself,they said as great as it was in the dirt,the grizzly did not like water,simple splashing cause the motor to cough and sputter.
 
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