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Old Feb 6, 2000 | 01:25 PM
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Does anyone know of a sport quad with an auto clutch? If there are not any why?
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Old Feb 6, 2000 | 04:45 PM
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I'll no doubt get some rebuttals, but oh well...we're all entitled to our opinions. I suppose the reason that true sport quads have manual trannys is the same reason that true sport cars do...operator control over the vehicle as opposed to having the thinking done for us via mechanical means. Operators of sport quads/cars as a rule prefer to have the option of choosing the optimum gear & rpm in that gear in any given situation,giving them maximum performance of their machine. In addition, it affords great satisfaction in knowing that one has complete control over the operation of his ride. In my case, at least, it is such a rush when riding a technical or variable course, trail, or track to know one has performed the up-shifts, down-shifts, braking, etc in all the right sequences at at the optimum speeds & rpms.Another philosophical reason perhaps, is that we have so little control over our lives any more, it's gratifying to be able to make a machine do exactly
what we want it do do.
A famous jazz musician one was asked, "what is really jazz, anyway?" He answered, "if you have to ask, you'll never know".
I think that applies to the question, "Why a manual transmission?", also.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2000 | 11:29 PM
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I never thought of that. That is a real philsophical idea. Thanks for yoour ATV expertise.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2000 | 09:07 AM
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hot_shoe_cv,

Uh, no offense but that sound like an excuse you make if you don't make it up a hill (I was in the wrong gear/I didn't shift down fast enough/I didn't have enough momentum because I went up in too low a gear). Having "been there" and "done that" with manual transmissions on dirt bikes, I can truthfully say I'll never go back to either. I guess I never had the satisfaction of shifting my own gears. I HAVE had the satisfaction of not having enough momentum to make it up a hill and stalling/being in too high a gear and bogging out before I can shift/coming off the pipe and boging out/missing a gear and bogging it out.........

Thank you, I'll stick with my automatics!
 
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Old Feb 7, 2000 | 09:44 AM
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Good discussion; I think we're talking about individual style and preference.

No doubt, even the most skillful speed-shifter loses SOME momentum changing gears; also, an ever-present risk exists, finding the "extra" neutral position.

While I have not evolved personally (some might say) to "automatic" transmissions, I acknowledge advantages of CONTINUOUSLY VARIABLE TRANSMISSIONS maintaining momentum when hillclimbing.

I distinguish automatic transmissions, transmissions that shift gears automatically, from continuously variable transmissions as found on production ATV's.

An automatic transmission, such as in your automobile, loses momentum when gears change. Don't think so? Notice the slight lurch when the family bus shifts from "L" to "2" to "D" to maybe "OD."

By contrast, continuously variable transmissions deliver steady power through an infinitely variable range of drive ratios, providing continuous momentum, essential for snowmobiles (to keep them from sinking when traversing deep snow), the parent of the ATVs' CVT's.

Looks like the new Honda Rubicon transmission possesses continuously variable drive ratios too; instead of variable pulley or sheave belt contact circumferences, the HondaMatic uses a continuously variable receptor cylinder volume in its hydrostatic transmission to continuously vary effective drive ratios and deliver continuous momentum.

While I enjoy "manual" (auto-clutch) shifting, the "automatics" enjoy great popularity, sometimes by preference, and sometimes by those who've never driven ANY manually-shifted conveyance.

Vive le difference!

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Old Feb 7, 2000 | 05:52 PM
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Because it is more of a high performance feel
 
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Old Feb 8, 2000 | 05:36 PM
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JIm, doesn't that mean feel the difference?
 
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Old Feb 9, 2000 | 12:40 AM
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rking85, When you say automatic clutch, what do you mean? Would that be like an old BIG RED Honda where you utilize a manual shifter, but no manual clutching is involved. OR Would this be like a Polaris- 400 Sport. OR would it even describe the transmission in an automatic automobile ???????????????????????????
 
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Old Feb 11, 2000 | 10:05 PM
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your best bet would be a lakota. it uses the same chassis and the suspenson as the mohaje and auto cluch tranny and engine out of a bayou300.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2000 | 10:07 PM
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