Anyone know the true final weight of a moto? I have seen 350 lbs. all the way to 375 lbs. Is there a better exhaust for it besides the FMF factory one? What does it cost to remap your computer?

 

Chris, some dealers remap for free, Honda of Tulsa was going to charge me whatever shop time they required to download the map. Since they had never done one, I didn't feel like paying them a couple hours to experiment on my quad. I shipped mine to R&S Performance, they turned the computer around in less than one day and the price was very reasonable.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] The quads weigh around 350 pounds in dry form, current DW's issue weighed the Cannibal right at 350 pounds, the 375 is going to be in wet form. There are not alot of choices on exhausts and I believe the FMF that's on the Moto is probably a pretty good setup as far as performance. My HMF is alot louder than the FMF but the Moto also has a different header pipe then mine. I believe Bill's also makes a silencer, maybe also a header pipe.

 

So what did R&S charge you? I am thinking maybe I should go cannibal and then put on my own shocks, a-arms, and axle. Does anyone make this stuff for the cannibal yet? I would like Axis shocks and something besides lonestar a-arms. Also, do all of the cannondales share the same swingarm and compression?

 

All the Cannondales have the exact same motor. In other words, I could drop the motor out of my Cannibal, put it in a Moto 440 (just the motor), and hook all the moto's cables, lines, exhaust, and computer back up, and it will run just like the moto always has. The only difference between the cannondales (power wise) is mapping, and exhaust. The Cannibal and speed have the same exhaust but the speed has the extra 1000 rpm's (and some other differences like shocks, seat, handlebars) and the Blaze and Moto have the same exhaust (less restrictive than the Cannibal and Speed) and the rev limit is at 11,600 (like the speed.)

K&K has a kit offering, Gibson A-arms w/ Axis shocks but you'll have to go to the K&K ATV racing website to find those prices... sorry, I can't remember what they are. Walsh racing, American Star, Leager (I think), and some other companies that I can't think of have a-arms for the Dales. Also, Durablue, Lonestar, RPM axle's are available as well.

 

Wow, thanks alot. I might get me a dale. Hey, when you remap, does that change the rev limiter also?

 

Yep

 

Ge the Dale. Yes it does change the rev limiter

 

Houser makes a-arms also. Do you want +3+1 or +3+0?

 

Chris, just an FYI, 400EX a-arms bolt right up to the C'dales which means the shocks should as well. Ask Johnny, when he was tearing the crap out of my old FX400, he swapped some aftermarket a-arms for a 400EX over to the C'dale and they bolted right up.

 

You can't put on 400EX A-arms without using 400EX spindles and brake calipers.

The Ball joints on the Cannondales are much larger than the Honda's so you use 400EX spindles to accomodate the larger ball joint.

You have to use 400EX calipers because the spindle/caliper mounts on the Honda is no where close to the Cannondale's. I guess it would be possible to make a bracket, but you're still stuck with the ball joint problem regardless.

I have heard of a few swaps using the 400EX A-Arms , but they were also on the older Cannondale's that different front end geometry than the current models.

Also, on the current Cannondale's...the upper A-arm mounts are closer together than the FX was by almost a 1/4 inch. The 400EX arms bolted right onto the FX, but will not fit the current models unless you grind a bit off the inside portion of both A-arms.

The Honda tierod ends are also smaller than the Cannondales and wont fit properly in the holes drilled in the spindles.

There are two differtent front end combinations on the early 2002 Cannibals, and I haven't seen a speciffic serial number break on any particular unit. Measure the ball joint size to be sure. The A-arms also differ on these models as well as the tie rods and tie rod ends.

The Speed, Blaze, and Moto all have the new front ends regardless of serial number.