NEw 27" Tires, Need a little help!
#1
I will purchasing a set(4) of new tires, I've narrowed it down to 589 M/T or Highlifter Outlaws. My question is how do these tires perform when not in mud or snow. We all know there great in mud or snow but happens when ur not. I live New England where the climate changes so much so often u need a tire that can perform on anything. I chose a mud tire because in the spring if u don't have one u won't be riding. But other than mud we have lots of rocks, loose to hard pack sand/gravel. Any help would be greatly appreaciated. Oh ya will be putting these tires on a 02 AC 500i. Thanks!
#2
I have both the outlaws and 589's on my 4 wheelers. if you are going to run on rocks and sand i would say that the 589's would be a better choice. i took my outlaws in some rocks and every time i went up a incline they would dig big holes and i would have to back out and try and again. i have hand my 589's in some sand and they wanted to dig holes in it too but not as much as the outlaws. you might want to look at the gbc gators, my friend has some of those and they seem to be a good tire.
#3
Jacked, Have you considered the bi/tri claws? They are excellent in the mud and snow, and they are better on the hard pack then any other aggressive tread tire. What makes them perform better on the hard pack is the tread crosses over the center of the tire not stopping at the center like vamps, outlaws and the other aggressive mudders.
They are an under-rated tire![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] I love mine!!! If you haven't looked at them here is a link mud machine claws
I have the 27" Bi/claws up front and 27" Tri/claws in the rear. My buddy has the 26" bi/claws on his Rancher and they also are outstanding! They 26" tires have a less aggressive tread pattern, but they work well for all applications.
It was the all-around performance of the Claws that sold me on 'em.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]
They are an under-rated tire![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] I love mine!!! If you haven't looked at them here is a link mud machine claws
I have the 27" Bi/claws up front and 27" Tri/claws in the rear. My buddy has the 26" bi/claws on his Rancher and they also are outstanding! They 26" tires have a less aggressive tread pattern, but they work well for all applications.
It was the all-around performance of the Claws that sold me on 'em.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]
#4
Hey just checked out ur link and still have a few questions for yah, It says it requires atleast a 450cc engine. Well thats fine because I have a 500cc but if they need to post that those tires must be heavy! Also Is 4 ply side wall strong enough, most are 6 ply, Dont want to be stuck in the woods with a blown out sidewall. And with ur combination, Bis in the front and tris in the rear what type of problems have u ran into that these tires don't perform well in. Like wet rock, roots, soft "dune" sand, ect... Also does this set up fit on stock rims. Thanks again for ur help.
-Justin-
-Justin-
#5
If you want an idea of what these tires actually weigh, go look at the chart on Highlifter's website. I agree with the dude that said the Bi/Tri-Claws are the way to go. I narrowed my search down to that a few years ago and never looked back. A buddy of mine finally got a set for his Rubicon and loves them. They are an excellent mud tire with a better ride than most, and they do just fine in any condition. I don't ride mud much, but I know I'm prepared if the case comes up.
For the riding you mentioned, I would rule out the Outlaws. Pretty much a mud mainstay tire. The 589's are real good and very popular, but don't hang with Claws in the mud.
For the riding you mentioned, I would rule out the Outlaws. Pretty much a mud mainstay tire. The 589's are real good and very popular, but don't hang with Claws in the mud.
#6
Thanks again, Sounds like the Bi/Tri combo is the only way to go. Thanks again for all the good advise. Also what is the largest tire I can fit on a stock rim for a 02 AC 500i. I palnned on going with 27x9.5x12 on the front and 27x12x12 on the rear. Will this set up work And if it will can i go larger on the front tires, like 10" wide?
#7
Yes they are a 4-ply tire and I was a little leary myself about that. I ride in a lot of deep forest situations and have not had a problem (that includes a lot of brambling over and around dead fall, rocks and many other potential tire damaging obstacles. These tires have a little side wall protection offered by the coned shaped tread on the sides of the tire as well.
At any rate, I feel confident that these tires are tough as nails even at 4-ply.
They perform top notch in all areas that I have riden. Mud, snow, ice, rocks, hard pack...I can't say that I encounter much sand dune type of terrain though, but I would imagine that they would do fine.
I do believe stock rims will work with these tires, but don't quote me.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img] I ordered mine mounted up!
Your machine should handle the weight NO PROBLEMO!!! I think the bis 27x9.75-12 are about 28lbs...the tris 27x12-12 are 33lbs. I think 9.75 is the widest bi that they make. It's plenty wide. I know guys who have put 27x12-12 tri claws all the way around and they work but you work your a$$ off keeping control!!!
Like Andy said, check out highlifter for the specs...
And shop around for the prices check out this link...atv links
I bought mine at ATV North. They had the best price at the time. Things change though!!! Hope this helps!
At any rate, I feel confident that these tires are tough as nails even at 4-ply.
They perform top notch in all areas that I have riden. Mud, snow, ice, rocks, hard pack...I can't say that I encounter much sand dune type of terrain though, but I would imagine that they would do fine.
I do believe stock rims will work with these tires, but don't quote me.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img] I ordered mine mounted up!
Your machine should handle the weight NO PROBLEMO!!! I think the bis 27x9.75-12 are about 28lbs...the tris 27x12-12 are 33lbs. I think 9.75 is the widest bi that they make. It's plenty wide. I know guys who have put 27x12-12 tri claws all the way around and they work but you work your a$$ off keeping control!!!
Like Andy said, check out highlifter for the specs...
And shop around for the prices check out this link...atv links
I bought mine at ATV North. They had the best price at the time. Things change though!!! Hope this helps!
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#8
Thanks guys u have been more than helpful! Can't wait to purchase these tires and hit some serious mud holes. Will be purchasing these tires late winter, so if any problems arise be sure to post them. Thanks again!
-Justin-
-Justin-
#9
I had mine mounted on my old AC stock rims and they worked out ok. I think those were like 6.5" wide rims on the 99 both front and back. I know the 98 454 had 8" rims in the back. You won't have any problems on the stock wheels, seems like I've seen some big tires on AC stock on somebody's website before, and it looked ok.
Don't worry about puncturing these either. I've managed to put a concrete nail through one of mine and thats it in over 2 years of owning them. They are 4 ply, but I would imagine that they are still a lot tougher than a 6 ply Blackwater.
Don't worry about puncturing these either. I've managed to put a concrete nail through one of mine and thats it in over 2 years of owning them. They are 4 ply, but I would imagine that they are still a lot tougher than a 6 ply Blackwater.
#10
I'll throw in my vote for the bi/tri claw combo. I've got the older 25 inchers, which have a little different tread but are basically the same tire, i think. After several years and hundreds of miles of abuse I've had no problems, no punctures, and in fact almost never even have to top up the air pressure. I ride mud, hardpack, rocks, swamps, snow, tundra, forest - you name it. These tires do it all.
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