Scrambler Snorkel...
#1
Today I took the time to look at the PVT air intake and I can understand why water gets in during "splashy" situations. Very bad conception. Heres the question: If snorkled, does the intake have to be as big in diameter and would a lot of turns and elbows inhibit air flow? I do not think a lot of air flows through anyway because the end of the square tube is near the motor and faces backwards?! I was thinking of doubling the tube and have 2 seperate air tubes go up through the plastic... I don't want any 2" black pvc going in front and above my hanle bars...ugly... Maybe cap of ends with large perforated screen??
Any opinions???????
Any opinions???????
#2
I've been looking at the same thing on my Scrambler. We have property on the Whitewater River here in Indiana, and I do a lot of riding in the water. I was thinking of hanging a small piece of rubber (something like a mini mudflap) in front of the snorkel to keep the splashing water from getting in. It doesn't look like it would be hard to do, and all it would take is a large rubber tire patch or something similar. It would just basically hang down in front of the snorkel and prevent the water from splashing into it so easily. I'm going riding tomorrow, so I may look into doing it sometime tomorrow. If it works ok, I'll let you know.
Later,
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#5
Explor,
You don't like my sewer pipe snorkel system?.. hahahaha My g/f won't let me snorkel her Scrambler 500 either... hahahahahaha...
On a serious note, what you CAN do is what Adam Dowden did to his Scrambler... He removed the factory exhaust duct from the PVT and clamped on a FRESH AIR DUCT HOSE (from an autoparts store) and ran the other end up and looped it over just inside the hood.. You can get seriously deep with that set-up without worrying.. You'll drown your engine before water will get in there; and you can't see ANY modifications from the outside... Catch quad_man (Adam Dowden) and he can give you even more specific details on how to set it all up.
You don't like my sewer pipe snorkel system?.. hahahaha My g/f won't let me snorkel her Scrambler 500 either... hahahahahaha...
On a serious note, what you CAN do is what Adam Dowden did to his Scrambler... He removed the factory exhaust duct from the PVT and clamped on a FRESH AIR DUCT HOSE (from an autoparts store) and ran the other end up and looped it over just inside the hood.. You can get seriously deep with that set-up without worrying.. You'll drown your engine before water will get in there; and you can't see ANY modifications from the outside... Catch quad_man (Adam Dowden) and he can give you even more specific details on how to set it all up.
#7
The snorkel wors great... I have only had one person notice it so far. Others just ask how I kept the belt from getting wet when I went "that" deep. I usually tell them just keep the gas on to keep air flowing out, then show them the snorkel.
The truth is, most people would be fine by just keeping it revved up. However, whenridign with friends or in a crowd, it's hard to always maintain the speed you need or keep people from splashing by you.
If you want pictures & information on my snorkel, you can e-mail me. But basically, it's just car air conditioning flexible hose that runs from the PVT exhaust outlet to up under the hood. It's slightly bigger than the outlet, but not so big that water could get through.
I highly reccmend using as few bends as possible, and not going any smaller than stock. It needs to flow air, espeically when you are turning big tires and deep mud and it heats up more.
The truth is, most people would be fine by just keeping it revved up. However, whenridign with friends or in a crowd, it's hard to always maintain the speed you need or keep people from splashing by you.
If you want pictures & information on my snorkel, you can e-mail me. But basically, it's just car air conditioning flexible hose that runs from the PVT exhaust outlet to up under the hood. It's slightly bigger than the outlet, but not so big that water could get through.
I highly reccmend using as few bends as possible, and not going any smaller than stock. It needs to flow air, espeically when you are turning big tires and deep mud and it heats up more.
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#8
Thanks for the tip! That sounds very interesting. Does it go a lot higher up than the stock...under the hood as in near where I have my oil tank? (2-stroke)
If you have any pics send them on over if you like:
brian.t@videotron.ca
I think I am going to snorkel both my machines this week! I suppose I could even save half of the original suare tube and cut it off about 8 inches from the top, add on and have it keep going up strait!!?? This will be fun...
If you have any pics send them on over if you like:
brian.t@videotron.ca
I think I am going to snorkel both my machines this week! I suppose I could even save half of the original suare tube and cut it off about 8 inches from the top, add on and have it keep going up strait!!?? This will be fun...
#9
Quick question, I have a 97 sp500, and I was wondering if you could use the type of filter that is in the airbox for the crankcase, as a filter type plug for the air intake, it's farily course so it would let a lot of air through but not the water. Would it be enough air?
#10
No offense taken.. If it was a sport machine, I wouldn't "pipe" it either. It seems to be the newer Scramblers that have that problem though. My g/f 97 Scrambler 500 has been DEEP underwater, so far that I drowned the engine out, we floated it out of the water, drained the airbox, fired it up, and the belt wasn't wet... How? I dont know.. but I know the factory exhaust pipe for the PVT is way different than the 98 and newer models.
On my 99 Magnum (in stock form) I kept getting the belt wet when I would get into over 3-4 feet of water, so that HAD to be fixed.. Hence the PVC pipe. I am NOT fond of the new pvt exhaust duct on the Magnum.. your front wheels literally throw water directly up into the exhaust duct end... Must have been a Monday when that piece was designed.
I wouldn't put anything like screen over the exhaust outlet, you continually have dust from the trails and belt dust being blown out of the PVT exhaust... These small particles will clog the screen rather quick and stop airflow. The "fan" in the PVT is a NON-POSITIVE DISPLACEMENT type of air pump... So if you restrict the exhaust flow, it will quit taking any cool air in for cooling... You may end up with a burnt belt or a melted PVT Cover...
On my 99 Magnum (in stock form) I kept getting the belt wet when I would get into over 3-4 feet of water, so that HAD to be fixed.. Hence the PVC pipe. I am NOT fond of the new pvt exhaust duct on the Magnum.. your front wheels literally throw water directly up into the exhaust duct end... Must have been a Monday when that piece was designed.
I wouldn't put anything like screen over the exhaust outlet, you continually have dust from the trails and belt dust being blown out of the PVT exhaust... These small particles will clog the screen rather quick and stop airflow. The "fan" in the PVT is a NON-POSITIVE DISPLACEMENT type of air pump... So if you restrict the exhaust flow, it will quit taking any cool air in for cooling... You may end up with a burnt belt or a melted PVT Cover...


