hey bbr650 boys dont discount the can 650 either it will fool you badly . i can vouch for a few losses to bbr650's little yellow rocket in the loose sand .

 

Hey wcs, what do those guys who run 26"+ tires do to compinsate for the visco-loc? I heard that the 800 can turn the large tires just fine, but there 4x4 system slips. What do you know about this????

 

What's the price tag on this thing where you guys are from? I think down here the guy said it was like $9200 + tax, title, etc. Probably around ten grand after it's all said and done.

 

it depends wheather you buy an xt or not xt, non xt 800 (correct me if im wrong wcs) is $8800 xt package is another 700$ thats better tires frt and rear bumpers, 2500lb warn winch and hand gaurds.

 

there is no slip in the 4x4 at all ! we do sled pulls all summer the sled is 3500 lbs and will torque a frame so bad on a honda they cant even pull the sled 60 to 70 ' . these can 800's and 650's do not slip at all . we run 27" mud gear tires on then by inova they measure 28" with 3lbs of air and are a full 12.5" wide . we put them all the way around the quad .

they are not a cheep quad at all but they are the hummer of the atv world . you will have to stick to msrp in our area if you want one .

 

bbr650 you are on the money !! it would take almost 12,000 to set one up like mine is with all the toys i have for it .

 

I'm lucky I guess because I own both - AC 650V and Can-Am 800 Max. Love them both, but for different reasons. The AC is a work horse. Use it for towing, dragging, hauling, etc. The bomb is just plain mean (in a nice way). As a two-up machine it's great. In the summer I live at 7,500'. The AC is jetted for that altitude and both get pretty close to the same fuel economy. The bomb is blindingly fast and will pull strong from almost any reasonable speed. Both machines are stable at 50-55MPH but clearly the Bomb has a lot more left at that speed. Plenty fast enough for me.

Problems. Both machines are '06 models. The AC (1,200 miles) had what I believe to be an incomplete flush at engine build and shortly after purchase required a new rear head, cam and cam cover. Obviously a piece of metal scored the cam bearing surface. It's fine now. I added a new Dynatec CDI module, red and black clutch springs, tightened the belt and installed a sway bar. It's fine now and suits me and the riding I do. Still tippy but that's the price of high CG. The Bomb (1,000 miles) has heat issues. I've melted the underside of the seat and am awaiting the factory heat shield "fix." The ride is also much better, but the AC is a work horse. The tires on both are less than I would like. The Bomb's tires have weak tread face and I've had more punctures with them than any other tires I've ever owned. The AC OEM tires (Goodyear) roll under in corners and I don't like them very well either, but will not change them until they wear out.

Cost. Got a great deal on the AC and also on the Bomb. I shopped the internet for the Bomb and saved a lot of money. Enough to make it worthwhile to drive over three hours to pick it up. I live in San Diego in the winter and the local dealer wanted $1,200 ABOVE MSRP for the Bomb. That market adjustment thing I refuse to pay. I told them when they got done using recreational drugs to give me a call...I'm still waiting. The dealer I bought from told me last week he cannot keep an 800 in his shop. Lots of 650s (mostly yellow), but all his incoming 800s are spoken for. I asked him the difference between the 650 and 800. The Hp is only 7 or 8 less and the 650 seems like a good deal, better giving the savings over the 800. He said the biggest difference you can feel is the torque. The 800 has it in spades. I've never ridden the 650 so can't say. I do know the 800's power is addicting. Always nice to have all the power you need on tap anytime you want it - at any reasonable speed. Riding two-up is effortless and the extra WB isn't noticeable. In fact the machine is more stable than the short WB model. I bought a winch for it on e-bay (Gorilla) for an out the door price (including tax - I picked it up) of $105. The dealer mount was $33. It works fine. I'm very impressed and the company is greata to work with. 6 mo warranty. I really wanted to buy a Warn because I like buying American and believe I should, but just couldn't justify the cost difference.

I like the 650's front locker much better than the Bomb's Visco Lok. The Visco is, for the most part, a limited slip. One front wheel must slip before the other will engage. Bigger tires only make the amount of slippage more pronounced. On slippery surfaces such as mud, snow, or ice, this is not a problem, but if you ride hard pack trails you will be dissapointed. Obviously there is a trade-off between steering effort and the amount of slippage dialed in at the factory and for most situtations the way it is, is okay, but big tired units that ride extreme will not like it much.

I'd like a few more "cubby" holes to store odds and ends - on both machines, but the AC's "glove box" in front of the seat is nice. I also like Honda's cubby in the fender. Something like that would be good also as would something like the Po-Po's front storage box, although the should fire the engineer that designed it - excellent idea, very poorly designed. Can't really carry much because of the odd shape of it.

As for top speed. At any speed either of these machines will do, well, if you have an accident you're dead. Nice for bragging rights, not much use other wise.

 

I am new to this web site and don't really know anything about it but i have a question about my DS650? My axle bearings ahve gone out on my a couple of times and i was wondering if anybody had any tricks about replacing them because i dont know to much about them. My DS is a 2000 if that helps. Thanks. Jon

 

Might I suggest the BRP section of this forum?

ATV Connection BRP Forum

 

I have to say. I saw my first Bombardier 800 perform this past weekend. I parked my grizzly 660 after seeing this thing run and just watched the show. I watched it run through some ankle deep mud racing two banshees and he beat them both in two wheel drive. Of course that isn't meaning much but this thing runs like a sport bike.... it had all the axles and I watched him put it in four wheel drive, but I don't see where it is needed. It is a very fast bike.. unbelievably fast for a 4x quad. I think it was a 450 banshee and not sure what the other one was, but he beat them both in the soft mud, and on dry land from 0-40mph (thats about all the room there was).. I didn't talk to the guy so I dunno if it was stock or not, I just enjoyed the show.

It is one MEAN *** machine if it was stock.