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Old Jan 10, 2001 | 01:55 AM
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Yeah they're tough. I had to flip my wheeler up on the grab-bar and go-to-town on them jokers.
They weren't pretty when they finally came off.
Soak 'em awhile and if that don't work heat 'em.
good vice-grips and a big hammer and a pissed attitude will get 'em off.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2001 | 02:23 AM
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I think because of your lift didnt you loose some wheel base. This will probably answer why you wheelied so easly. I know my cousin Has built blaster that he lengthend the swing arm just 2 inches and that made a world of differance with the fron end coming up. I know you wheel base wouldnt have changed that much but it might be just enough to affect it.
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Old Jan 10, 2001 | 03:28 AM
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Damn Boner, sounds like my day yesterday-one thing right after another, and a real pain in the butt, yet kind of fun at the same time. Well, I must say my little river voyage was not fun at all, but the earlier riding/coyote hunting was a blast. At least you got a good connection there by the sounds of things with that guy.

Hey, got a question for you though-I didn't get a chance to check the 'Cat out thoroughly yet, but did look at a few things. I found no traceable evidence of water in either the airbox or intake, or the oil at all. However, when trying to start it up, it doesn't want to start very well at all, when it does, you have to keep the choke on all the way, and give it throttle to keep it running, otherwise it dies. I tried to drive it off the trailer into the garage, and it kept dying on me when trying to do this. The only way it would run was with the choke on all the way, and about half throttle. Does this sound like water in the carbuerator to you? Tomorrow I'm going to dig into things a little deeper, change the oil and filter just for good measure, drain the gas tank and fill with fresh gas, as well as a heat gas treatment stuff, and check or change the spark plug. You think that will fix my problem, or could there be something else wrong?

By the way it's acting, I'm guessing it's water in the gas, does that sound right? Have you ever had anything like that happen in all those deep mud rides you do?

Thanks for the help,

Mike
 
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Old Jan 10, 2001 | 12:47 PM
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Cowboy, sounds like you do have water in your gas. Did you drain all of your gas out, after you lost it in the river? Or did you put any heat or any other gas aditives to take the water out. i wouldnt let it sit to long with the water on the tank. I did that with mine. I only had crappy gas but up here in Wi with the cold weather, The carb ended up building alot of varnish. so I had to tear that apart and cleen it out. You probably wont have to do that at all, I was just gone for 2 weeks so that cat just sat there. Well best of luck for you.
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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 01:35 AM
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Cowboy,

I think you have water that entered from the carb vent lines. You probaly have water in your fuel float bowl. I think you should drain it and collect the contents in a see thru glass to see if you have water in it. I bet you do.

I would also change all the fluids except for the radiator coolant. Also if you don't change your axle fluids, ATLEAST check on them. Change your oil and oil filter. Change your gas. Air out your air-filter for a day or 2. And I think thats it.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 03:06 AM
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I'm on it tomorrow for sure. Was going to tear into it today, but was conned into going duck hunting instead. Should have just stayed home and worked on the 'Cat, it definately would have been more productive.

Boner:
I've never looked into a carb before, so I'm completely ignorant of that entire area. Do I need to pull it out, or just a piece of it? Should I do anything about the carb vent lines? I was going to pull both side panels off, and take the gas tank out as well, also take a look into the spark plug to see if it's firing properly. It acts like water, but if the plug is fouled, it might not be starting very well either. Do you think after I put in all fresh gas, that I should put in some Heat stuff? I thought that would help get anything out of the lines, is that a good idea or not? Also, if the plug is black, that is an idication it is running too rich isn't it? Or do I have that backwards? If this is the case, is the jet easy to replace? Minehunter had written that he recently installed a different jet, and it seemed to run better-I think he had a black plug if I remember right. I'm guessing mine will be too, as when I pulled out the stock plug and installed the cre8, I think it was a little on the dark side. Does the dealer have extra jets, or is that an order piece, and if so, should I go with a stock jet replacement of a different size, or go with a dynojet kit? I remember you saying something once about one of the jet kits that they charge $50+ for you could get for only a few dollars someplace else?

Anyway, sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure I get it all done right, and don't screw anything up.

Thanks for the help!

Mike
 
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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 12:45 PM
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Cowboy,
Is there a reason why you put a different plug in. Mine has cre6. You have to watch it when you do that. If you put to hot of plug( I forgot is it higher the # the hotter the plug or is it the other way around I always forget) you have a good chance of burning a hole in your piston. When you change jets just becareful Sometimes they become a pain in the @$$. You live in the moutians right. So your jets will be different then us flat landers. I would if i where you talk to your local dealer and see what his mechanic recomends for jets. Best of luck
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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 05:34 PM
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Matty:
Hey, just got back from the dealer with a bunch of oil, filters, the works. Will be tearing into it shortly. Plan on pulling both side panels off, the gas tank, etc., then pulling the carb apart-to the best of what I'm brave enough to try anyway! I'll try to catch the contents like Boner suggested to see what's in there in a clear jar, as well as check the oil when I change it.

As for the plug, the cre8 is a colder plug actually. I had the 6 in stock, but a bunch of guys recommended changing to an 8 shortly after I bought it, so I tried it, and have been pleased with it so far. I'm not sure I'll be changing the jet just yet. I'll take a look at the plug to see how it looks, then decide on a possible change or not. I'm hoping I don't have to, as I don't know anything about carbs, so I'd probably get myself into trouble with that one. Definately don't need that.

Anyway, thanks for the tips, I think I'll go start on it now.

Take care,

Mike
 
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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 06:08 PM
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Dont look at the plug thats in it right now to take a correct reading. I presume you got a new plug right away too. I would put that in, an put a few miles on it then look at it. because right now it will most likely look dark since all of the water and gook. But sounds like you have some fun a head of you. good luck
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Old Jan 11, 2001 | 08:31 PM
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The 6 is the hotter plug. 7 is medium, and the CR8E (stock plug on a 500) is the colder. Basically, 8 for warm climate, 7 for medium, and 6 for cold. I would have thought that the hotter the plug, the better it would run, but for some reason, mine runs faster with the CR8E than the CR6E. I put a brand new 6 in last month after having the 8 in for about 6 months, and I immediately noticed about a 4-5 mph drop in top speed. Whats up with that? Maybe the jetting or something.
 
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