Hopefully I have that fixed now. Took it to the dealer today, and they took it in the shop and took the cover off the pull start. There is a cap that screws in right there where you can check the timing. It seemed to be where it was leaking and it wasn't very tight. They took it off and it wasn't cracked or anything. Just tightened it up good, and wiped off all the oil. Took about 20 minutes. Hopefully that was the problem, but I guess I'll just have to see if it persists.

 

Well i hate to say it but its a all new quad you got to expect a problem or two. Heck even honda the reliability king has had some problems on the last fiew new models. At least it was a seemingly easy fix. How did the Dealer treat you knowing that you got it somplace else?????? Nothing i hate worse then a bitching dealer when they get paid for the work.

 

When the mechanic pulled it in, I heard the service manager hollering telling him that he didn't want to quit another job to fool with mine. He said that he just wanted to take a look at it, not bring it in. The mechanic ignored him the whole time, and just went about taking the engine covers off my bike. In 20 minutes, he had it back together, and told me just to let him know if there were any problems. The mechanic was cool. I think I would have gone a few rounds with the service manager though if I had to deal with him. He seemed like an ***.

 

how bad (if at all) could the 660 beat my scrambler 400 in a drag?

 

Don't know man. I've never ridden a scrambler. I have no idea. I'm pretty sure it could beat a Sp400L. I know a guy that has one of these and I've ridden it. It runs like a scalded dog. Same engine as your scrambler without the sport geometry. I don't know to tell the truth. I do know this, the Griz is really really fast. But I'll tell you this. I don't know which is faster between it and the 650 prairie. I've heard so many stories telling a lot of things, but I would have to see it to believe it either way. Somebody was saying a prairie could outrun a 400ex. Same goes for that. I haven't ridden anything really but utility quads, and this is by far the fastest of those I've ridden. The only other thing was a warrior, and this reminds me of that. Its doing mid 50's, and the engine isn't even reving real hard.

 

Andy,
Well I can't add anything to your post except I have no regrets changing from the Cat to the Grizz. I liked my Cat, but I really really like my grizz 660. Now if it can only be as realiable as the Cat. Your also right about it being fast, lots of power. It has a great ride, and good handling. I put spacers on mine and seemed to help with stability. Bigger tires are going on it in a couple of weeks. Probably 27 or 28", not sure what kind yet. Love the push button 4 wheel drive selector, works great. The camo looks better in real life than the pictures, I think. Just have 31 miles on mine so I am holding some other opinions till later.
Larry

 

I'm seriously thinking of taking off the sway bar and seeing what it does. It looks real easy, and I can always put it back on if I want. I may do this in the coming weeks. I'll need to get something to change the preload settings, because channel locks will probably just strip it out if I use them. The work good enough taking it down, but setting it stiffer is another story. I'll let you know if I ever do it.

 

Andy, I'm glad that you like your Grizzly. The only comment you made that puzzles me is that you are not into the diff. lock lever on the Prairie. They went that route so that you could feather the amount of grab it has so that you still have good steering control. If you haven't tryed it, how can you compare them? I'm not saying the Prairie system is better, I'm just saying that I hope you drive a Prairie soon because I think you would give an honest answer on the advantages and disadvantages of both, and I'd like to hear if you still feel the same way after riding both. I'd also be real interested in how the Prairie would handle the hills you were testing the Grizzly and 454 on. Someone else said he raced a Prairie with his Grizzly several times and that they were dead even until flat out, where the Grizzly was a few mph faster. Does the Grizzly have instant throttle response? I know the Prairie does.

 

This is just my opinion-I haven't tried the kawi, so I don't know for sure. But, I would think that while climbing a REALLY STEEP loose rock, rutted hill, or mud for that matter, standing up and leaning so far forward over the handlebars, it would be kind of hard to get ahold of that lever to pull for diff. lock if you needed it. I climb a lot of hills like that with the 'Cat, and have had to try and hit the breaks before for some unknown reason a time or two, damn near didn't make it because the angle I was riding, or the angle of the steering wheel, didn't make grabbing that lever feasible. With the push button, you have both hands on the bars where you need them-not trying to climb the hill, making it halfway up, then having to let go of the bar-even with just a couple fingers-thus loosing a good grip on the bars, would make it very difficult, even dangerous in some aspects. Now, going down the hill would be a different story, as you're grabbing the bar with your hands, but the palms of your hands are where the pressure is at, so you could easily finger out for that lever. Going up though with the pressure on your fingers-it just worries me. Guess I'd really have to go out and try it in that circumstance, but still, even after trying to grab my own break lever in that situation it was hard enough to do that and still maintain adequate control-especially when you get one tire in the air and trying to "balance" the machine.

Like I said, I don't know for sure as I haven't tried it, but in my opinion, I think I would prefer the push button style, as I think it's more "user friendly" maybe-does that make any sense? I guess in those circumstances that "zip-tie" trick would be the best option for safety sake?

Anyway, would be curious to know what somebody thinks who's ridden both on the same hill-Andy-any thoughts???

Best of Luck guys,

Mike

 

I prefer the lever style diff lock. It only takes a finger to pull and your hand doesn't leave the handlebars. But the big reason I prefer it over the push button style is because you don't have to slow down and lose all your momentum to engage it. Plus you can steer it easier and it also doesn't have a rev limiter while engaged.