Trailboss- What part was incorrect? Well Mr. 450? What did I misstate? I would like to know, because I certainly don't want to spread any wrong information here. Chances are, you misinterpreted something maybe eh?

 

Both fronts were spinning because your rears were pushing you forward, thus giving you forward progress and did you think I was meaning that you would have one spin in the air while the other just drug itself over the log? Think! I mean when you are gassing the crap out of it, and the rears are spinning like crazy, and you aren't going anywhere, and the front in the air is spinning like crazy and the one front on the ground is just standing there with an occasional twitch, and a bit bigger twitch if you slap at the brakes a bit.

 

Exactly BCD! Good quick to the point post.

 

Thanks for the info. I apologize about not being able to "think" lately. Finals are next week, so things are kind of stressed around here lately. Long days, and even longer nights without sleep tend to burn the brain a bit, then nothing makes sense, know what I mean?

Thanks for the patience.

Mike

 

No misinterpretation here Andy. I know my facts. If you look at ANY of my posts You wont find any of them that say that limited slip is a better or worse system. A locker WILL pull you through better in most any situation. Handling is the key factor here.
Limited-slip differentials LIMIT the differential (the "slip") between the two front wheels. The main reason for wanting a limited-slip is to improve traction in a turn due to weight-transfer to the outside wheel. A limited-slip differential will allow slippage of the wheel with the least traction but it will still direct a significant portion of the engine torque to the other wheel where it can do some good. A locked differential on the other hand will cause your vehicle to want to (push) meaning want to go straight. This same concept also applies in mud or in asituation where one wheel is off the ground. LIMITED SLIP is kind of a happy medium between an OPEN differential (which I think you are confusing it with) and a locker. Just because you cannot or will not let the limited slip concept sink in I cant help that.
I was simply trying to explain how the system works to someone who doesnt know. Then I get replies from people like you that havent the foggiest clue of how a differential works. Also you wont find any of my posts boasting about my quad is better than yours or your particular brand is junk. I dont see any point in that because they all have their place and use as far as I am concerned.. There is really no BAD quad.
I dont see any point in trying to explain it any further to you or this BIGBADCAT guy because neither of you seems to have any real practical knowledge of the workings of an ATV other than how to take it to a dealer for repair.
And do you want to know the MOST IRONIC part? When you do it will be worked on by one of us so called dummies that are Nationally Certified Mechanics who have taken hundreds if not thousands of hours of training and continuing education just to keep you so called experts on the trail. PRETTY SCARRY HUH!!!!!!

 

Andy, I agree With you, Pne of the Reasons I traded for a Polaris years Ago was for the the fact Both front wheels pull (please No bashing here, im not bashing any CAT machine). many times on a Bayou 300 i was stuck with one wheel Hoplessly spinning in the Air while the other one sat on the Ground doing Nothing. Some people On here say they have all 4 tires Spinning, wel ive seen it too, In equal traction conditions, such as deep snow and Mud, All 4 tires will often spin. but in Extreme Conditions, for which I assume you Ride Andy, much Like me, it leaves you stuck more often than not. I have Taken My Polaris Xplorer up and over obstacles that outright stopped the Bayou, not because it was a Polaris, but simply because both front wheels were pulling, I actually have Video footage of a Kawasaki Prarie 400 with 25 inch bearclaws stuck on a rocky ledge unable to traverse it, and My xplorer simply walking right up over it, with admittedly smaller stock tires. AGAIN not because It was a Polaris, just the fact that Both front wheels Pull.. Anyone in here that says a limited slip is suffecient Does not Ride In extreme conditions, and for them Im sure its fine, but In rough conditions...A locked or true 4x4x excells, im sure as the Big Cats Become more popular that A locker will be available for it.

 

Wow That was a fun topic. Let me finalize by saying, nobody wants fulltime locked dif, take my word for it or try driving a 300 Suz around with dif locked, it works excellent those times your stuck with 1 front wheel planted firmly & doing nothing, but without the ability to unlock it ( no not going to 2wd ) your rides would be short & tiresome!!! BUT I DO LOVE MY DIF LOCK IN MY 250 Suz 4X4 & 300 A/C 4X4

 

Listen here Jack! This wasn't about which is better or the high points of a locker vs limited slip or anything. It was about somebody saying that they never see one front spin in the air while another sits still. I said more or less wait and see. It happens. They say it doesn't, I from experience say it does, as do most people with any sense on the forum. Thats it. Not this is better or that is better, just that it will happen with a limited slip, and not with a polaris or a locker. I really didn't ever say anything at all about lockers I don't think. Don't change the subject if you want to complain and explain. Stick to what we are talking about here, and that is whether or not you can get a limited slip spinning out with a tire off the ground and the other front not pulling. Yes, yes, yes. Bottom line. Me and BigBadCat did it a bunch last saturday while I winched myself up and out of a hell hole, so take your 25 years of first hand knowledge and keep it to yourself. Or shut your mouth and know your role.

 

Hang on now guys, ease up a bit. First of all, I was not saying that it NEVER happens, I was simply saying that AS OF YET, it hasn't happened to me, and I was just curious how I could make it happen. I have been in several situations before, where it should have, and didn't, so I was just curious how to make it happen, that is all. Please do not confuse what I was saying, there is no point in arguing about something that is just a simple misinterpretation. From what I have noticed in the past, you both have a wealth of information that has been rather useful to myself, as well as several others in the forum. I both respect, and appreciate that. That is what this forum is all about, helping each other out in times of need, possibly straighten out any confussion, as well as share new ideas. Andy, I don't doubt what you say at all because I know the wheel slippage does happen. All I was saying is that I have not had it happen to me AS OF YET. As I asked how I could test it, Sxr6 was kind enough to explain a simple way of doing that, which I will try this weekend. And, on the other hand, while inquiring as to how it works, Trailboss was kind enough to explain it. Now, with 25 years of mechanical experience in this field, I tend to trust his views as well. I guess what I am trying to say is, when yer horse breaks his back, do the merciful thing, and put a bullet in his head, don't keep kickin him 'cause he ain't gettin up.

With that, it's nearly time for the weekend, which means it's ridin' time! 'Nough said.

Mike

 

Well said!