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Old 10-22-2001, 12:08 AM
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Hi, anyone know what the difference between the 85 and 86 atc 250r is? I have a chance to buy a 85 or an 86 250r, the 85 has an fmf pipe and the 86 is stock which one should I buy? Thanks
 
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Old 10-22-2001, 02:37 PM
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There are not that many differences but the 86 has a better seat(thicker), better carb, and the rear end is the same as the TRX so parts are easier to find.
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Old 10-23-2001, 12:20 AM
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Retro is right, the 86 had some subtle changes but they were problem solving changes..The engine has a few trans mods that increased strength,the cylinders ports were slightly moved,the rear caliper mounting device was re-designed to increase strength and reliability,and the TRX has the ATC swing arm not vise-versa!!(hahaha). The fork springs and seals were redesigned in 86 also.The went to a PJ series carb in 86 which is wayyyy better than the round slide of 85...Parts are a little easier to come by for the 86 because the TRX stole alot of it's engine/swing arm design. Good Luck...I'd go with 86...no doubt in my mind!
 
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Old 10-23-2001, 01:04 AM
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The 86 had the PJ carb? Will the PJ bolt up to a 85 ATC with no modifications?

Why is the PJ better than the roundslide?
 
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I have had both '85 and the '86 and they both have their pros and cons. I prefer the '85 because I like the lower seat height and I like the dual-rate springs over the progressive wound springs in the forks. But these are small things as it really doesn't matter since they are so close. I have swapped the PE and PJ on the same trike and really didn't notice any difference. At the time my motor was stock but on a modified motor the PJ would probably give better throttle response. If I had to choose, and both were in equal condition, I would always get the stock machine over a modified one anyday.
 
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Old 10-29-2001, 08:27 PM
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Everthing Keenan mentioned is true..I only disagree with two things which are 1. the forks (all rider preference) I thought the progressive springs were better all around trail/MX. 2. The PJ carbs were easier to tune and had a much smoother Idle-to-Main transition (throttle response). Again all in how the engine is tuned and weight of the rider/machine combo..I too owned two of each machine..one 86 and one 85 I bought brand new the other two were used units. I liked bith but preferred the 86's handling/Power Combo. To answer your question: YES it will bolt right up just adjust your throttle cable and make sure to use 5/16" fuel line.
 
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