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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 03:23 AM
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I do beleive I remember correctly that the only Brass shavings you pulled out of that bike is when you drained the oil, and you pulled them out of the drain plug! Oh yeah you did clean that screen out I remember. But that was when we got it back to your place after Dumont. Remeber we went out to Pabco again after that and I don't recall you checking the screen again after that![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img] But perhaps you did when I left. Anyway, as long as your rig is running right now that is all that matters.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Love Ya! Placostomus!! LOL[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 04:42 AM
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I doubt your results for some reason.
send it back to the same dyno and see if you got any hp and I bet it will be the same,
that motor wasnt oil starved or it would be together after dynoing it. perhaps the new gas may have woken it up, but I know how you guys talk and believe.
a dry piston is a stuck piston and you wouldnt get 62 hp without oil.
I dont know how much timing your motor has so I cant say for sure, but it should run a bit rich at 155 degrees and I know for sure your rig doesnt lift the wheels in 4th or 5th, unless you bought that 400suzuki that was beating you guys all day. then you would be lifting the wheels.

you dont ceramic coat a motor(inside) to lower water temperatures. you do it so you can raise combustion temperatures without melting a piston (or streak the walls if you dont warm it up properly). you coat the pipe to better evacuate the cylinder.

where do you guys learn the things you say?
after riding with you guys (actually without you guys because both of your bikes were broken for every group ride that the rest of us took), I can say that reliabilty and ease of tuning should be your biggest concern. Whatever was clogging your filters probably came from your tank after switching fuels 5 times in the sandy environment. or perhaps when that 400 was sandblasting you, your trick filter setup failed and ingestion could be your problem. Maybe it is the $50 tony gave to sam to make your bike slower than his. I will need more info to analyze this and to believe either of you guys.

remember if you dont have reverse, all of this effort is useless at REVERSE WARS the weekend before 2STROKE WARS in glamis.

just ride it
like sam did
no wrenches
no tire swaps
no funny fuel
no gear changes
no carb rejetting
just fun and riding
scrambler style

MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE LEFT IT STOCK


WITH MUCH RESPECT
chris

maybe your bike caught something from tony's while they were in the trailer together
 
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 05:00 AM
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Hey Fatty, you know why they call them Scramblers don't ya?! Because the pothead that designed them was scrambling his breakfast eggs on the block because it overheated from trying to race mooks up the hill in reverse![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 05:19 AM
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first of all YOU have never seen my other ds and you probably never will its so fast it is really hard to see, and second of all if you knew the first thing about a ds [or 4-strokes in general} THEN you could talk, this is the facts, WHEN MY RES FILTER WAS CLOGGED THE FIRST TIME I LOST 15-20 BIKE LENGTHS ON THE HILL, ASK ANYONE IT WOULDNT EVEN REV PAST 6000 RPMS!!!, THE LOSS OF POWER DUE TO NO OIL IN BOTTOM END IS SEVERE, i dont know where you get your knoledge but i think you learned from TONY, IF YOU KNEW SOMETHIMG ABOUT A DS 650 then i could take you seriously, but with that mustach of yours i just dont trust you!!!!!! i swear on my life this 763 comes up in 5th gear, it is nothing like my bike you saw at pismo that beat everything out there exept that nitro Z520... hey didnt you see me beat that alky banshee??, or were you getting danked up, i tried to keep my distance from you that night for a reason, YOU HAD BAD GAS AFTER EATING THOSE FAJITAS, and you know it....and dont EVER ask me to borrow a pair of my underware again, its not my fault you had an accident, my underware wont fit you anyways there way tooo big up front,, besides i dont believe those dyno #s even came out of my bike, if you think these bikes are like your snowmobiles i can edjucate you if you want . my exhaust ports have been ceramic coated along with combustion chamber, valves, and outside of motor and cylinder has been coated with a new black coatng that dissapates heat, you should try this on your snow machined, the guy who built my DS motor happens to hold most records for snowmobile drags, and has more trophys than you could count, by the way with the coating it allows me to jet leaner without overheating also...have you been drinking again tonight???
 
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 05:29 AM
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Oh man!! Not the Fajita clouds!!!!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] Yikes!! Hey Mario be careful about the snowmobile thing with Snowblind he tends to get real testy about that![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] He may go and buy a V-Force and whoop all of us down in forward and Reverse![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] He has some pretty substantial clutching knowledge. You know Chris took first place at the X-Games qualifiers last year with his Atomic 995, I don't think the old man can even claim one that good?! IF Chris wasn't so scared of the downhill he could probably win King of the Hill at the World Championships on that sled of his. Well I don't know if he could but I know his sleds could.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 05:35 AM
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4 stroke motors gain from using ceramic coatings. The exhaust valve is the hottest part in a 4 stroke motor. On 2 strokes the piston and exhaust port are actually the exhaust valve. That is why when 4 strokes fail from overheating they usually burn an exhaust valve, but when 2 strokes fail from overheating they usually burn or seize a piston. snowblind do you know this???????????

SOME PEOPLE use a ceramic/metalic compound to the dome of the piston. This compound protects the piston in two ways. 1. The ceramic compound has a higher melting point than aluminum 2. It conducts less heat (insulates). The (silver colored) ceramic compound reflects heat away from the piston, keeping heat in the combustion chamber (more power) and LOWERING the temperature of the piston (longer piston life). The Ceramic compound bonds to the metal surface and expands and contracts with the metal (it is actually flexible).
You can also apply a black "Thermal Disspersant" to radiators, air cooled cylinders and heads, or any surface that you want to dissipate heat more quickly. The Thermal Disspersant actually helps the metal to give off heat more quickly, so radiators and cooling fins become more efficient.
you coat EXHAUST systems with a ceramic compound similiar to the compound used on pistons except that it can be polished to a near chrome look. This compound is comonly used on car headers. It does not turn color from heat, corosion resistant, helps hold the heat in the pipes and LOOKS great.

Piston skirts can be built up with another compound. The skirt diameter can be increased on a new or used piston to bring the piston to cylinder clearance back into specs. This process is used on engines where pistons are obsolete, very expensive, or just to bring a slighty used piston back to specs. PLEASE ANYLIZE SNOWBLIND
 
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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i'm pretty sure bigslim said i was wheeling faster than his stage one would go but i was just hanging on, and couldn't say if it was 4 or 5th gear but it seems reasonable with the right gears it would work.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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Who's website did you copy that off of?![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
 
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 03:55 PM
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The company that ceramic coats ALL ron wood pipes did my motor, they have a bunch of different types of coatings, and at 4 in the morning it was 90 degrees, i took my 760 out and ran it for 40 minutes hard and the fan was on most of the time, i used toggle switch, the temp did NOT go over 160 degrees.....and on the pavement speed shifting into 5th the front will lift up a bit and if i try i can wheely , Tony youll see when you get here, and you might as well tell Christopher that when we were at dumont and the bottom end was getting no oil it made little power on top...Is he out of re-hab yet????
 
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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I've been coating engine and exhaust components for years and have found what works and what is just for sale.
I have found more power from polishing combustion chambers than from coating then. mostly the coatings can correct mistakes and accidents. I also cryo my cylinders and crank and some pistons, as well as my light cut gears. the titanium stuff I leave alone.

as far as your losing 20 lengths with a clogged filter, If it was slowing you that much, you ruined that motor and need new bearings and should check the journals-- or rather whoever builds your bikes has to check it. the friction you described would have generated enough heat energy to melt those bearings and probably overheated the oil. It isnt something that you can fix by cleaning the filter, so you can only attribute it to the new fuel.
check your rear axle bearings to see if they are beat up. maybe that would slow you down that much

I have done many 4stroker and still own 4stroketech.com , but I have moved on to more powerful engines with less weight and less problems.
stop believing everything you read and learn from sam, the best bike is the one that runs flawlessly all weekend and needs no new parts to go out the next, unless you are a real racer, with sponsors who doesnt get beat by z440s with 15yr old owners

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