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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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ok, DS still won't start. It has new battery, starter relay(solenoid), and procomm cdi. When I try to start all I hear is one click and a whinning noise that fades. I just spent ^@7%&!!# time pulling exhaust to remove starter, tested that, and it works fine too. My only guess is short somewhere in electrical wiring. Any guess as to where to start, look, or which wire? Any one with similar problems before?? Getting frustrated, haven't been able to ride in months. Anyone know where to get wiring harness? Thanks for suggestions or sympathy [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
 
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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have you tried the stock cdi
 
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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I know your battery is new, but does it have a FULL charge? Your CDI may keep it from starting, but it should not keep it from turning over. Have you tried to pull start it? Try and jump it off. you dont wont to leave the jumpers on to long, but if thier is a Low Amperage problem this should fix that.




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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by: SANDMAN430
have you tried the stock cdi
I would do what Sandman says - I dont want to start anything (no pun intended) but the Procomm CDI's do have a high rate of DOA. Most of the time they work or they don't - so problems are fairly easy to fix, with an exchanged CDI.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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Could the starter be turning the wrong way? Can't remember but, someone had that problem.

BTW, shouldn't have to remove the exhaust to pull the starter. The starter is two allens on the clutch cover and that's it. Slides right out.

Just to confirm, you are telling us that the engine isn't turning at all?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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sounds like your battery to me as well- jump it from your car and see if it fires up.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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First be sure your engine can rotate and is not locked up. Then make sure all motor mounts are tight and ground connections are cleaned and tight. An easy check to see if your grounds are bad is cranking the motor while the headlight is on. If it goes out then you have a high resistance in the circuit.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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Yes, when I first had the problem I thought the Procomm was the cause so I put the stock CDI back on, but same thing.

I've tried jumping it too, no luck. Tried jumping solenoid too.

I can't pushstart it because rear axle is off of it (waiting for snap ring for carrier).

I took the exhaust off gas cause it was leaking gas out of the header (ya, carb is stuck open or something, will get to that after I can get the starting prob solved).

I still think wire grounded somewhere. As soon as I installed new relay, it tried to start for a second then made the click noise, which is why I thought starter may be an issue, but could also be grounding problem. Unless there is a sensor or safety that won't allow engine to start with rear axle and chain off but I can't find any such sensor on schematics.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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If your jumping the soleniod and it still wont crank then its a bad ground. Ground your neg terminal of your battery right to the motor case with some jumper cables and then crank it.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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i connected negative to engine block and it still wouldn't crank, although it did make a different noise (sizzling noise coming from near starter relay, no smell of burning wires though). I tried the headlight Wistech and when I press starter, the headlight dims pretty quickly. Maybe both pos and neg lines are bad?
 
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