Interestingly enough, I watched a documentary on the company, Bombardier, on the Discovery channel. Bomb is a vast company that dabbles in the atv industry. The info is of course not todays news, but the commentary did indicate that Bomb had not broke even on atv's yet. The documentary also indicated that Bomb may get out of the atv business. Anyone else watch the program? This has been several months back.

 

I'm curious if this was before the break up of the company...

 

IMO, this seems highly unlikely. This is not typically the kind of PR any company lets out until it has decided for sure it will no longer produce something.

 

I thought you said they would not put reverse on the DS. I told you they would after the Pred did. They would have to to survive. If it's true, they will have even more fat butts like me looking at them very hard.

 

Gary,

Any guess when that documentary was made? As far as I know Bombardier already got out of the ATV industry when they sold the recreational division to the Bombardier family and an investment company. That news of the transaction being final was a short while after the Baja X first came out (see how us Bombardier guys mark time - by model release!) which puts the news at about 1+ years old, meaning your documentary would have to have been at least a year or more older.

Now, if you will notice - one company is named Bombardier, and the other is Bombardier Recreational Products. Also I just noticed a slightly new logo, perhaps they are re-tooling for the new logo or something as well. All of this doesn't mean what you said was untrue, then or now, but just that I feel a lot has changed since they made that documentary.

In fact, there is a new website for the new company even - www.brp.com and on that site it says they made (as a whole, not broken up) 22.1 million in canadian dated January 31st, 2004 so I would have to assume that is for 2003.

Here is a link to the BRP "Organizational Structure"

http://www.brp.com/en-CA/Company/Our....Structure.htm

So they are now definately a different company and as to one division making or loosing money? I dunno where to find that info - I fix computers all day not sell them. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

 

I would say that a 450cc Bomb sport atv is at least 2 years out and it is highly unlikely that the 450 Aprilla will be used as it is physically much bigger than it appears in pictures and not really considered ideal for a quad. Also since Bomb has no base for a potent 450cc engine available out of any current models "Unlike Yamaha, Honda and now Suzuki" they will have to develop a completely new engine for the 450 which in itself takes a couple of years.
Have they tested some ideas?? Yes, but they aren't as far along as most would like to think. As for the DS, I think they are looking for ways to improve an aready proven model in a big way, so don't look for it to disappear anytime soon.
That's reinforced by the fact that Bombardier sent some reps down to Baja for the 1000, and with their 1st,3rd and 5th place finishes in the big race, and the SCORE offroad Championship in the bag as well, they are quite pleased with their creation.

P.S. Blackhawk, I like that you still have my old bouncing girl avatar showing her stuff.....well done!!

 

Personally the idea of a 450 does not interest me. The 450 market is already flooded and will become even more flooded when Suziki releases theirs. I would rather see Bomb spend their time perfecting the DS even more. Reverse, factory EFI, and a diet would be welcome additions.

 

Wow, I would like to see a new rotax 450.

 

Here is a link showing that BRP is making money and doing ok.
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personally I’m a big guy that’s why I bought my DS. It fits me. If they do make a DS450
that would be great. But I would also like to see a DS990 in the line up. (see link)
they all ready have the motor and its 138 hp 6 sp gear box and efi. Sounds good to me.
(Click on engine models to see more info on it.)
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Sorry, but a 990cc atv making 100hp wont make it into production in any of our lifetimes. Our utility atvs are reaching 800 cc and they are putting out about 50-60 hp before driveline losses.