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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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yes you are rite on that one. your gonna have to watch out for me. 2big.next year im sweaping the whole circuit[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] and im not kidding about this one
Dont forget about our Battle of the Buldge grudge match. Im going to make you wear balist just so drivers weight is taken out of the equation.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Im prepping as we speak.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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We updated his NOSS system, but, unfortunatly, wont be ready for the race since we couldnt ship it to the track. It was a rush to get his 4 Stroke kit there, and in hindsight, didnt realize he wanted the same high horsepower system as we also put on his Twisted Sister quad. But dont you worry, it will be there for all future events. My understanding is that HP research did an awesome job on the motor, and I suspect that will be where the HUGE horsepower will come from, and will also be dropping jaws when it performs.
and in hindsight, didnt realize he wanted the same high horsepower system as we also put on his Twisted Sister quad

You have to be kidding me!!!! Since when has Sandbommer only wanted just a little Horse-Power..........

What kind of excuse can you come up with now.......

Sorry SandBomber, I thought you only wanted a 5 horse shot for your pit bike..........

I tell you what, I wonder how much money this cost Glenn, thinking that you had sold him the best system out there that was available, only to get punked by you......


Once again, .........Well I better shut up before I get upset, and I wasn't even involved

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Dune,

Its cool - Actually the problem was that Glenn needed a nitrous kit, any nitrous kit, for the DS to run at the race. We did not have high horsepower solinoids in stock. We shipped a kit that we hoped would produce enough, but it didnt. In hindsight, in this situation, I probably should not have shipped a kit at all. But then I would have taken heat for not shipping anything. So, I'll take my lashes.

I think my friendship with Glenn stands on its own, and certainly he does not share your sentiment. I understand there were carb issues, tire issues, and tuning issues, that were independant of NOSS. I will work on my issues. Perhaps you should cut back on the caffeine.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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We (BOMBARDIER'S) sent the 450's back to the trailer today, enough said.....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

Oh and can I tell you the 2 fastest times ran today on a single cylinder 4-stroke was on Bombardiers, which happens to be 222's 4.23 sec pass and my 4.4 sec pass on THEBOM'S bike. The rest fell into the 4.5-4.6 range. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Choose, on friday Scott Atv's stock frame Raptor ran a 4.4 also.
Yes, Overrated, Im sorry. That raptor did indeed run a 4.4 also. Very impressive bike to be in a stock chassis. I think we will have something to look out for in the future, [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
No problem, I just though Scott Atv should get some props for a really fast stock frame bike. In a race that has a stock frame only class, that bike will be really hard to beat.

You Bombs guys def turned up the juice though...good wins guys. It was good meeting you Glenn.



 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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I agree, that Raptor was a mover for sure.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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Dune,

Its cool - Actually the problem was that Glenn needed a nitrous kit, any nitrous kit, for the DS to run at the race. We did not have high horsepower solinoids in stock. We shipped a kit that we hoped would produce enough, but it didnt. In hindsight, in this situation, I probably should not have shipped a kit at all. But then I would have taken heat for not shipping anything. So, I'll take my lashes.

I think my friendship with Glenn stands on its own, and certainly he does not share your sentiment. I understand there were carb issues, tire issues, and tuning issues, that were independant of NOSS. I will work on my issues. Perhaps you should cut back on the caffeine.


1st off Glenn had a proven system!!!! But because of your salesmanship telling him and everyone that this was the best in the land, he went with yours. He did not NEED yours, he was pushed into thinking he did.

2nd If these kits were number one in the snowmo racer's, then they will flip if they ever get a high horspower system from you or "boss noss". But, they would have to buy a whole new system, which puts money in your pocket......what a sales strategy!!!!

ALSO SnowMo's have two and three cylinder set ups.... to me it sounds like you are designing these ATV kits as the day goes by.......We will add a second hose here and new switches here and keep these buttons here.......Quote from another site posted on 04-05-06-----
All carbed ATV system will incorporate a new switch that will power up the system, and also arm the system. This is yet another safety feature that I had incorporated into the new product for ATVs. The benefit is that the switch will power down the the fuel and nitrous solinoids or power them up. By having direct control over power, the system will never open a fuel solinoid when the power is off, by accidently hitting the boost button on the handlebar. Also, by arming the system, the electric fuel pump will power up and provide constant fuel pressure ready to be used when the boost button is pressed.-----

This came after Glenns bike had been on the dyno and was being trouble shot because it had NO power increase on the dyno. Why didn't the ENGINEERS figure this out, and not some hillbilly mechanics? It was after they looked at the schematics that they started getting.....hold on here......10 horse out of a supposedly very large shot of n2o.

Oh and I love this comment in the quote " This is yet another safety feature that I had incorporated into the new product for ATVs Thankyou MISTER MECHANIC MARKY!!!!!! for those that don't know, if this switch was not installed, your motor would lean out until the fuel pump turned on and started pumping all the while the motor is getting Raw n2o in it.

Face it, all you are is a CAR SALESMAN I do not understand how some people can sleep at night, after doing what they do to others.....

By the way, what were the times on the twisted 20 mill bike with and without N2O This might shock a few people.....

And, I hate to disapoint you, but no caffine here, I just get fired up when people stab other's in the back...
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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HI JAMES!!!



Im not knit picking Marky I just had a question. With the wet system I ran, I would keep the nos bottle turned off (NO NOS IN SYSTEM) for safety reasons I would make a run and hit the button till she boggs getting the fuel pressure up and ensuring me that the fuel pump was working and I would let the button run with raw fuel until motor bog, THEN I knew the nos bottle was ready to be opened into the system. How can you purge the gas seperately so you know you have fuel hitting exactly when the nos is w/ BOSS set up?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by: ANNIHILATER
HI JAMES!!!



Im not knit picking Marky I just had a question. With the wet system I ran, I would keep the nos bottle turned off (NO NOS IN SYSTEM) for safety reasons I would make a run and hit the button till she boggs getting the fuel pressure up and ensuring me that the fuel pump was working and I would let the button run with raw fuel until motor bog, THEN I knew the nos bottle was ready to be opened into the system. How can you purge the gas seperately so you know you have fuel hitting exactly when the nos is w/ BOSS set up?
Yea what he said, I also dont want to be picking on you but. I cant help but think this another product that is being pushed out there prematurley with out proper R&D. I heard (dont know if its true or not) that bomber got the first functioning system produced and theres problems. Problems that could cost your customer an engine. It seems like alot of this stuff is being thrown together to make a quick buck. I hope that doesnt come back to bite you in the end.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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this nitrous set up isn't new the snowmoblies have had it for awhile, they have a lot of info on it!!!!! they thought i should stay with the system i have already, they feel it performs like glenns did, a little short on power, in marks defense they probably will get it worked out, but it's all nitrous when there on it a smile a second but when they fail you want to cry.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by: OregonDunePatrol
I understand there were carb issues, tire issues, and tuning issues, that were independant of NOSS.

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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:58 PM
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Dune,

Its cool - Actually the problem was that Glenn needed a nitrous kit, any nitrous kit, for the DS to run at the race. We did not have high horsepower solinoids in stock. We shipped a kit that we hoped would produce enough, but it didnt. In hindsight, in this situation, I probably should not have shipped a kit at all. But then I would have taken heat for not shipping anything. So, I'll take my lashes.

I think my friendship with Glenn stands on its own, and certainly he does not share your sentiment. I understand there were carb issues, tire issues, and tuning issues, that were independant of NOSS. I will work on my issues. Perhaps you should cut back on the caffeine.


1st off Glenn had a proven system!!!! But because of your salesmanship telling him and everyone that this was the best in the land, he went with yours. He did not NEED yours, he was pushed into thinking he did.

2nd If these kits were number one in the snowmo racer's, then they will flip if they ever get a high horspower system from you or "boss noss". But, they would have to buy a whole new system, which puts money in your pocket......what a sales strategy!!!!

ALSO SnowMo's have two and three cylinder set ups.... to me it sounds like you are designing these ATV kits as the day goes by.......We will add a second hose here and new switches here and keep these buttons here.......Quote from another site posted on 04-05-06-----
All carbed ATV system will incorporate a new switch that will power up the system, and also arm the system. This is yet another safety feature that I had incorporated into the new product for ATVs. The benefit is that the switch will power down the the fuel and nitrous solinoids or power them up. By having direct control over power, the system will never open a fuel solinoid when the power is off, by accidently hitting the boost button on the handlebar. Also, by arming the system, the electric fuel pump will power up and provide constant fuel pressure ready to be used when the boost button is pressed.-----

This came after Glenns bike had been on the dyno and was being trouble shot because it had NO power increase on the dyno. Why didn't the ENGINEERS figure this out, and not some hillbilly mechanics? It was after they looked at the schematics that they started getting.....hold on here......10 horse out of a supposedly very large shot of n2o.

Oh and I love this comment in the quote " This is yet another safety feature that I had incorporated into the new product for ATVs Thankyou MISTER MECHANIC MARKY!!!!!! for those that don't know, if this switch was not installed, your motor would lean out until the fuel pump turned on and started pumping all the while the motor is getting Raw n2o in it.

Face it, all you are is a CAR SALESMAN I do not understand how some people can sleep at night, after doing what they do to others.....

By the way, what were the times on the twisted 20 mill bike with and without N2O This might shock a few people.....

And, I hate to disapoint you, but no caffine here, I just get fired up when people stab other's in the back...
Holy crap are you kidding me?
Glenn is a grown man. He sure can make his mind up on his own. If the systems didnt work, that sucks. But to come on here and say its all the systems fault for him not winning is rediculous. Not to take anything away from Glenn, but a racer knows new things need to be tested before they are raced. This should have been done long before this event. Glenn had a new product, one more old product in the trailer probably wouldnt hurt anything. Could have swapped over to his old system once he knew it wasnt working.
As for the Bos Noss, I will agree with you the something isnt right. One kit should be capable of producing a wide margin of power. One kit for 10hp and one for 20hp isnt going to cut it.
As for attacking Markys character on an open forum, Shame on you! You should be a part of the yamaha forum!
 
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