Where did it go? There was a topic on Outtys and Engine Ice

 

hitler's 3rd took it

 

i dont know. i know some people were interested on the outcome of those bikes to see what the mechanic thought caused the problems

 

I bet that engine ice rep reported it and it got deleted for bad buisness. At any rate, i use engine ice and have never had a problem

 

Actually, that's not true.

I am angry that it is gone and have emailed the admin asking why it was pulled.
I called cowtown and spoke to the ATV parts Manager who basically told me it was all bunk.

I would post my reply to that thread here, but this will probably get pulled soon

 

I really think the engines were not properly flushed before the Engine Ice was installed. I've run Ice for four years with no issues. I have also ridden in the middle of the summer in the dunes at more than 115 degrees outside temp, again no issues. There has to be more to it than what was stated in the original thread. JMHO

 

If i read correctly, there were two quads with problems. They both happened to be outtys, which looks bad for them, so i assume they had to find something to blame it on. Ive also used liquid performance racing coolant, which has the same mix (cant remember the name, lp3?) and had no problems with that either

 

I just spoke to Ken in ATV Parts at Cowtown, and he disputes the claims made here.

BRP is NOT recommending the removal of Engine Ice.

They did test Engine Ice in an aluminum container, heating to approximately 300oF over a heater with no problem, UNTIL they added a 50/50 blend of an Ethylene Glycol/Water product, ONLY THEN did it "gel" and create a film.

They officially refer to the problem as an "Installation issue" and not an issue with the product, and they still recommend Engine Ice.

Ken was very nice, polite and clear that they do like the Engine Ice product and find no fault in it at all, only that it was an installation issue in that the system must not have been flushed or flushed fully, which is an issue they will need to look at in that machine.

I read him (Ken) the initial post, verbatim, and he said that the OP had only partial facts and/or misunderstood the facts presented. I asked him if it was ok for me to state his disputing the post and he said, "yes."

This is not meant to attack or disparage the OP, BBR650, as he was kind enough to furnish me with Ken's name and phone number at Cowtown to try and verify the information as presented, and I am grateful for his honesty in doing so.


**This was my reply before the thread was deleted by the OP, which I do not think is very fair since so many read the negatives posted, but as soon as it was shown incorrect, the entire thread gets deleted by the OP.
It's fair to make accusations, but as soon as proven false, you delete the very thread making those accusations?
I was kind and fair to you, Mr. BBR650, but you have not treated myself or our product fairly by deleting the truthful information disputing your claims, from the very source you cited.
Personally, I think an apology is in order, not a sweeping under the rug after hundreds read it.

 

So as long as you COMPLETELY flush your system, it will be fine, correct?

 

Yes, and that should apply to all products.

For any coolant and anytime you are changing coolant, we recommend a simple solution of distilled water and white distilled vinegar, both available at your local grocery store.

1. Mix the water/vinegar at 50/50

2. Fill system with the solution

3. Run engine until warm

4. Let cool

5. Drain

6. Run clear water through to rinse out vinegar.

7. Fill with coolant of choice.



This is the same as cleaning your coffee maker. The vinegar is acidic enough to clean out any contaminants and residual coolants, yet it won?t harm your seals and gaskets.