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04DS650=D 04-17-2011 11:56 AM

ds650 vs renegade?
 
I have a 04 ds650 with 20inch rear tires, 15t front sprocket, pro circuit slip-on, stage 1 jetting, and dyna non-programmable ignition cdi. Im going to race my dad's 2007 renegade with fmf power commander and i was going to wonder if i even have a chance. We will race on road and dirt, my 650 does about 75 and it gets there very quick

GroundSpeed 04-18-2011 07:00 PM

That will be very interesting, I know stock vs stock the renegade will win my bro has an 07 rene and i got an 05 650x and he won he also raced another ds be for me.

How ever with the mods the tables may turn good luck

beergut 04-18-2011 07:37 PM

you might actually have a good shot- the 07 rene had 10 less hp then the after years (72 hp) and you got the lighter bike.

I have an 08 800x with 27" 589's (very heavy tire) and winch kit- I've taken a 450r no problem but against another big bore can-am... I'd like to see that race :huh:

race twice- once in 4x4 and then 2x4

atvkiller 04-18-2011 07:44 PM

it should be a good race but im putting my money down on the ds 650 it sounds like its set up really good

TLC 04-19-2011 10:16 AM

Renegades are Outlanders there only differance are plastics,no racks and smaller 25" tires.

2010 Can-Am Renegade™ 800R EFI ATVs

Take the Plastic off of a Outlander and Renegade and no one could tell which is which.

beergut 04-19-2011 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by TLC (Post 3022753)
Renegades are Outlanders there only differance are plastics,no racks and smaller 25" tires.

2010 Can-Am Renegade™ 800R EFI ATVs

Take the Plastic off of a Outlander and Renegade and no one could tell which is which.

mostly true- the rene is a little lighter and the rene x has an upgraded chasis. I believe both the rene 800r & x also use a different fuel map for their efi (think I read that somewhere on the can-am site :huh: )- but like you said, pretty much the same.
I own both- the rene does feel a little quicker even with the 27" 589's, but they are so close it's really hard to tell- even with the extra winch & 27" 589 tire weight the rene will wheelie very easily in 4x4 mode- I can't get the outty to wheelie in 4x4 mode- the 25" tires make a stock rene feel quicker then the outty with the stock 26" tires.

TLC 04-19-2011 10:57 AM

The 80 lbs lighter would mostly be explained by the Rene not having rear and front racks and smaller 25" tires vs the Outlanders larger/heavier 26" tires.

I think those 3 things would make up 80lbs.

I just noticed the Rene also has 0.5" more travel in the front suspension.

beergut 04-19-2011 11:10 AM

when's this race happening!

04DS650=D 04-19-2011 04:53 PM

The race was very close. We raced about 500ft and i beat him 2 out of 3 times on my ds650. We were even off the start and i pulled about a quads length in front of him through 3rd and 4th gear and it stayed that way the rest of the race. The time i lost was when i wheelied off the start and i couldnt catch him. I just got the dyna cdi for my 650 and i put 20inch back tires back on it after having 23 inchers on it for a while. it is a very fast machine!

beergut 04-19-2011 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by 04DS650=D (Post 3022986)
The race was very close. We raced about 500ft and i beat him 2 out of 3 times on my ds650. We were even off the start and i pulled about a quads length in front of him through 3rd and 4th gear and it stayed that way the rest of the race. The time i lost was when i wheelied off the start and i couldnt catch him. I just got the dyna cdi for my 650 and i put 20inch back tires back on it after having 23 inchers on it for a while. it is a very fast machine!

hmmm- so the rene was running stock otherwise?

did you race with the rene in 4x4 and 2x4- just curious...?


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