The conversation with Harry yesterday reached a few different topics. I was wanting to get the pipe to just show the DS boys. Time frames are a problem here with the actual builder. The cool part was HARRY said he DID NOT MIND people at the party trying out the pipe, dyno it and give feedback. It sounds like Harry has developed a heck of a pipe and is not afraid to send it off to battle. A 30day money back garentee to boot. Maybe us Yamaha guys need to take up a collection and send the money to Trinity so he will not start big boring the DS. Just when i think i have things under control with my 686, looks like a 720 plus a little of this and a little of that. I am glad my wife is understanding. I told her we had no toys growing up, so i am making up for it now.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]