Just a couple of answers.

My errors and the errors created by other companies that made things worse were in no way the fault of Team Pami. They have been increadable about helping rectify things and are upset with how I let things go as well. If I were to go under, and Team Pami still wanted to deal in the U.S., faith in them should never be questioned.

If the folks waiting had/have negative things to say, they were and are free to say them without fear of retribution, provided they are true. One of the members of this forum that was waiting was somewhat more harsh than others. He made it clear that he wanted me out of business. He pointed out his problems with me to anyone that would listen. He had every right top do that and I never tried to stop him. He does have his engine now. Everyone will get what they ordered, as soon as I can get it to them, regardless of them voicing their opinion or not.

 

This is good.

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I know of a handful of people that Knutz/PAMI won't sell parts to or do any work for and this was before he "shut down". Particularly, people who went and did some of their own things with the DS. Also other people I've talked to I warned about being able to get the parts then planned on to go along with their non-standard setup. In the dirt wheels magazine article it says you can buy the parts. What's the deal?

Knutz/PAMI totaly jerked me around a year ago for parts and motor work. Knutz stated in this forum he has a hard time supporting the competition, that is what this is about.

My crank broke any PAMI ignored my e-mail.

Kuntz/PAMI lost thousands and thousands of $ in revenue by turning away business (this was before he shut down).

WE WERE MUCH BETTER OFF WITHOUT KNUTZ. DEALING WITH GOTTFRIED DIRETLY WOULD HAVE AVOIDED ALL THESE PROBLEMS. GOTTFRIED COULD HAVE BUILT MY MOTOR IN A COUPLE WEEKS. GOTTFRIED COULD HAVE GOTTEN PEOPLE PARTS WHEN THEY NEEDED IT WITHOUT THIS SELECTIVE SELLING OF PARTS TO WHOM THEY CHOOSE.

I could still use some PAMI parts. How about it Knutz prove you've changed.

 

sorry scooby,


i don't think you need to do anything to your motor. i've rode fast bikes but yours in a beast.

 

Educate me here - who's Gottfried? A German?

 

Well, I think I am the one that is glad he did not get stuck, and yes I did back out of a parts order. The $2 part was priced a bit higher to me and if it is so cheap keep some on hand. Also, that was supposedly the only part you did not have, but now you were stuck with some parts you had to order. Hmmmmm.

If you remember I was talking first about doing the 703, but did not want the two month down time and yes I am glad I did not do it, as apparently that would have turned into 8 months or more.

Also, you could have shipped the parts you had and then just shipped the gasket when you got it, but apparently you had to order some other parts. I cancelled after two weeks of hearing it would ship tommorow. I am sorry you had business troubles, but I have owned three of my own businesses and you need to learn some lessons.

Sorry for your troubles, but I am more sorry for the guys who trusted you with their engines.

Good luck to everyone
Bat

 

Scooby,

You are the only person that I have refused to build a motor for. When you approached me to build a custom set-up, in a hurry, guarantee it would make your turbo work, and you wanted it cheap, I knew I couldn't do it for you. I've done many motors for customers that did some work themselves, or had RWR do their head, or changed the standard package in one way or another. We do custom motors, so I've done more mixed packages than I have done standard kits. How is it that I have made anything worse for you? Were you a Team Pami customer befor I was in business? I know that you knew about them, had you spent any money with them. You were very vocal about trashing Team Pami clutch springs when your bike wasn't working. Funny thing though, quicker bikes than yours have had no problem with them. you never mention that you were running Mobil 1 oil, despite the fact that you were advised not to. I knew that if your turbo bike was not making the power that you had hoped for after I built your motor, you would have been just as vocal in trashing me or Team Pami. If your crank had broken after we had touched your motor, there is no doubt in my mind that you would have held us responcable.

Team Pami has a reputation for reliable, almost bullitproof, power. I will continue to ensure that reliability stays in-tact. For customers that want to install the go fast parts without the steps needed to ensure reliability, we recomend they look elsewere. Team Pami's name on the side of a motor means it will not only make great, broad power, but it will outlast any compairable motor, period. That will not be compomised, for anyone. I have not refused to build any one elses motor, but I have refused to sell parts of a 760 kit so a motor can be put together in a less reliable way. The 760's are so involved, I require that they be built here. I have spent more time explaining things to customers that want to put together their own 703's, than I would have spent putting it together myself. 760's, being more involved, will not be assembled elsewere.

We may have lost some sales due to you scooby, but when your crank broke, our reputation didn't suffer like it would have had we built your motor and not given you a new crank when yours broke. You don't want to address the oiling mods that we do on the right side main bearing [as evident by the parts list you sent me], so if your new crank breaks, we will not be responceable as you would hold us if we sold you a new crank. Although your bike has alot of potential, and you spend A LOT of money on it, you are the type of customer that can break a stellar reputation for power and reliability.

Scooby, you seam to know more than anyone else, so you refuse to take advice from someone as un-knowledgable as myself. I'm sure you can figure out your problems, eventually. I know that when you do, you wouldn't give Team Pami credit for making your power, had we built your motor, you would take it yourself, and most likely continue to trash Team Pami.

If the customer is always right, we avoided the confrontation by not letting you become a customer. One of your previous posts you stated that Team Pami was s*%t, and "who needs them", now you want their parts again? I'm sorry that we will not be working together, good luck on your bike.

I've always stated that it has the potential to beat any of my current motors out there, maybe some day you can get it to it's potential. As for your "handfull" of other customers, I believe your not telling the whole truth about what I said or what they wanted, if they even exist outside your imagination. Can any existing board members other than Scooby tell me that I refused to sell them parts or build their motor for them? If I refused to sell parts, I was more than willing to build their motor, to ensure it was done properly.

 

<< Well, I think I am the one that is glad he did not get stuck, and yes I did back out of a parts order. The $2 part was priced a bit higher to me and if it is so cheap keep some on hand. Also, that was supposedly the only part you did not have, but now you were stuck with some parts you had to order. Hmmmmm.

If you remember I was talking first about doing the 703, but did not want the two month down time and yes I am glad I did not do it, as apparently that would have turned into 8 months or more.

Also, you could have shipped the parts you had and then just shipped the gasket when you got it, but apparently you had to order some other parts. I cancelled after two weeks of hearing it would ship tommorow. I am sorry you had business troubles, but I have owned three of my own businesses and you need to learn some lessons.

Sorry for your troubles, but I am more sorry for the guys who trusted you with their engines.

Good luck to everyone
Bat >>



I was waiting on a base gasket. The price to you was even less than $2, if you want to be specific. I usually do keep them in stock, but ran out. Bombadier is not exactly known for prompt parts delivery. When they stall on delivery, I'm pretty much stuck. I had your carb, cams, piston, head gasket, etc.., but you admitted you couldn't install any of it without the base gasket, and wanted me to get it rather than you getting it from a dealer. No problem. Since I pay for shipping, it's cheaper for me to ship it all together than to ship everything but the gasket, and then ship the gasket seperately. I accepted your cancellation with no problems, and never mentioned you by name, and now you want to trash also? So what, exactly, did I do wrong for you to come and add trash? Had I charged a restocking fee, or forced you to take the order, I could see you being upset. I simply said, &quot;OK&quot; and looked for someone else to purchase the parts.

Your a classic example of &quot;me too&quot;.

 

Actually in my original post I thought I was being supportive of you. The post on page 2 of this topic.

I simply pointed out what I would do when it comes to having people send their engines. Then you say how people waiting on a gasket cancel orders and have no room to talk.

I did not complain on you cancelling my order, but I would have preferred to get everything when I ordered it and have it shipped in a timely manner. You live in a much larger city then me and that is why I thought it would be faster to have you get the gasket. In the time I was waiting I ran into another problem and that was the main reason for the cancellation.

In my original post I stated that you were a nice guy and had helped me out or offered to help me out in the past. I stick to that, but I dont think I was talking trash.

What you did wrong to me was first of all saying that I would have my parts by the weekend and then never emailing or calling me to tell me there was a delay. I had to call the following monday to find out what happened to my parts. Well actually I think I emailed or pm'd you. Either way that is where I felt you went wrong.

I am done, as this is just irritating now. I wish you luck and hope you get things straightened out.

Bat

 

i can see where the springs wouldn't work for scooby. his bike is the fastest DS. i have rode your 760 and his 650 with the turbo. the 760 does not compare to it at all. i've rode so drag banshee and 250R's that don't compare to it. not tring to take anything away from you or the 760 motors, my bike runs with the 760 of randys and scooby bike to mine is not even on the same feild.