Ok give it to me stright. I've been concidering getting my grandson A 90cc quad. Yet reading these fourms I see nothing but problems with them. Is this just A small amount of problems or would I be better off buying A brand name over one of the China Bike's. Looking at reliablity as well as safty. Thank in advance to any reply's.

 

It is my observation that regardless of the brand (big name or whatever) most, but not all, of the posts on a listserve are complaints or problems. That being said, I think some mechanical knowledge and ability is certainly a big plus with these ATV's.

I have 4 Redcats (50cc, 90cc, 110cc and a 150cc) I haven't had any horrible problems with any of them. Our riding is mainly trail riding and all the riding is by girls. Their ages are 5, 7, 9, and ?? (my wife). I have no mechanical knowledge and always worry when I read these horror stories but we've had 3 of the bikes for over a year. the problems I have encountered I've been able to fix with the help of this forum and John at Raceway. The plus is that I have toys for everyone with a minimum investment. If it was a name brand ATV we'd only have one bike.

 

Middleagedcrazy, I have been riding bikes of all kinds for the past 30yrs. In my experience they all can be lemons. I just purchased a SUNL 150, for my girls and they love it. We also have a Polaris and a Suzuki LT80. The SUNL is a great ATV for the money. I would buy another one again. The fine detail isn't there like the name brand bikes. But neither is the cost. When you start to look at you can buy 3 to 1. That made my mind up real quick. All in all I think they are well worth it. Just do your home work on the dealer, that's where it counts the most. Good Luck...

 

MIDDLEAGEDCRAZY,
I have just bought a Jetmoto150 and a mini falcon90 from racewayatv.com about a month or so ago. First off if your thinking about getting one then raceway in all my wife and my research is one of the best, for the customer support and price, because with the knock offs customer service is going to be the most important. Second, you save a lot of money buying Chinese but the trade off is they require more attention to detail from the customer and if your willing to turn some wrenches from time to time it really is a great way to go for the kids and maybe the wife. For example, when you first get the quad you have to apply loctite to just about 75 percent of the nuts and bolts to ensure they wont come loose, waterproofing the wiring with something like liquid electrical tape, change the shipping oil, etc...and no matter what Chinese quad you look at I feel this apply's to just about all of them because they pretty much all are drop shipped straight from China and if you buy from a dealer that put them together you still have to trust that they went through and did this for you, what are the chances of that!

This is just my experience, I pretty much looked here for pro's and con's, and then took a chance ordering from raceway. I did have a problem with one quad getting lost in shipping but John @ raceway gave them a day and then just sent another and it got here two days later. I spent a couple of hours on each of them doing what I mentioned above and have not had one problem. The 90 is amazing and I would recommend the Kazuma mini falcon everytime and putting wheel spacers on it from raceway makes it so much fun, my son loves it too! You can read my review of the Jetmoto150, (http://forums.atvconnection.com/mess...did/485833.cfm)
I put the Jetmoto through a pretty hard beating and for a Chinese quad I thought for sure I would break something.....not one drop of oil anywhere and not one broken part.

Hope this helps.....

 

In my opinion I would have to say that they are good bikes for moderate and easy riding, perfect for a kid starting and learning how to ride, just in case they just don’t want to ride. Anything more and I would go with a more durable bike, unless you like a lot of time fixing things. From the 2 (kazuma 110 and a 90cc from pep boys) my family owns you can bet they will break down a need some repairs. Most shops charge way to much and any substantial repair would exceed the worth of the bike so be prepared to work on it yourself. As for parts I have a decent seller local that stocks most of the parts so everything I have needed I have been able to walk into and get. As far as longevity I seriously doubt either of the Chinese ones I have will make it 5 years to be honest.

As far as safety they seem fine, they are a little narrow but no more tipsy than any of my bikes really.

My son of 7 years managed to break something about every major venture out on a 110 kazuma before he was 8. He broke the frame 4 times, broke a few motor mounts. The bike has required a lot of time and tinkering to keep going,

With that said he also shattered a swing arm, broke a motor mount off the motor, knocked his bumper mounts completely off and destroyed 2 stators on a 2003 Polaris 90 sportsman.

The only bikes he has not been able to destroy was my childhood 87 Yamaha yfm 100 champ and a 84 Honda atc 70. They have been in my family for their whole life and the only thing that has been done to them is wheel bearings, regular maintenance and a set of rings on the Yamaha. (This is in 20 and 23 years and 6 kids

I live in a very mountainous and rocky area and rocks tend to break things, he also is a very aggressive rider (there’s no mountain he won’t ramp off and no lake he won’t run into).

This is as strait as I can give you with my experience. Despite the problems for the cost i have paid I would probably buy one again. I have actually gotten alot of good welding experience from these bikes.

 

Thank's for the reply's guy's. You all have good point's. I'am going to do A bit more research before I make my disicision.