Tire inflation/pressure equalization
#1
I decided there has to be a better or at least easier way to inflate as well as get tire pressure equal from side to side or all the way around.
After some trial and error this is what I came up with.
Machine a manifold with 7 outlets or ports. All ports are common to each other for equalization purposes.
1 outlet per tire total of 4
1 for an inflation point.
1 to attach a pressure gauge
1 for a vent for deflation in case you over inflate or just want to lower the tire pressure.
Attached small ball valves to each port for isolation purposes.
Use push to connect type fittings and tubing for ease of assembly and disassembly
Use clip on chucks for each of the 4 tire valve stems.
This is what it looks like. I made two types, one without a compressor because I already have a small one that I always carry, and I also made one for a fellow rider who didn't carry one with him. I found a small compressor and mounted it to a manifold assembly.
I am pleasantly surprised at how well it works, I think the best benefit is having the pressures equal, no more uneven pull on the handle bars, especially on hard packed or paved roads. And overall inflation is much quicker, takes about as much time to take valve stem caps off and put them back on, as it does to set up and disassemble the entire unit. It packs away fairly easy as well, still use the same pouch for manifold, tubing and compressor as I did for just the compressor. The manifold with the compressor attached is of course a little larger but it all fits in the bag that came with the compressor. See pics at site below
http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/perryvj/
After some trial and error this is what I came up with.
Machine a manifold with 7 outlets or ports. All ports are common to each other for equalization purposes.
1 outlet per tire total of 4
1 for an inflation point.
1 to attach a pressure gauge
1 for a vent for deflation in case you over inflate or just want to lower the tire pressure.
Attached small ball valves to each port for isolation purposes.
Use push to connect type fittings and tubing for ease of assembly and disassembly
Use clip on chucks for each of the 4 tire valve stems.
This is what it looks like. I made two types, one without a compressor because I already have a small one that I always carry, and I also made one for a fellow rider who didn't carry one with him. I found a small compressor and mounted it to a manifold assembly.
I am pleasantly surprised at how well it works, I think the best benefit is having the pressures equal, no more uneven pull on the handle bars, especially on hard packed or paved roads. And overall inflation is much quicker, takes about as much time to take valve stem caps off and put them back on, as it does to set up and disassemble the entire unit. It packs away fairly easy as well, still use the same pouch for manifold, tubing and compressor as I did for just the compressor. The manifold with the compressor attached is of course a little larger but it all fits in the bag that came with the compressor. See pics at site below
http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/perryvj/
#3
Ya to each his own, I prefer to use a regular snow shovel instead of a plow, a regular old bumper is fine for me, don't plan on crashing into too much, my posture is pretty good so I just sit up straight, don't need a backrest, a regular old pair of gloves works for me, don't need fancy hand warmers, and of course a regular map suits me fine, don't really need help getting back to the truck. Not really sure why you would need a GPS anyway, if all you have ridden is 1 mile.
#4
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: RotaxsRok
Ya to each his own, I prefer to use a regular snow shovel instead of a plow, a regular old bumper is fine for me, don't plan on crashing into too much, my posture is pretty good so I just sit up straight, don't need a backrest, a regular old pair of gloves works for me, don't need fancy hand warmers, and of course a regular map suits me fine, don't really need help getting back to the truck. Not really sure why you would need a GPS anyway, if all you have ridden is 1 mile.</end quote></div>
I don't need fancy hand warmers either. I never had a pair in my life. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
I've ridden thousands of miles on my ATVs but only ridden THIS ATV less than a mile because it's my 3rd or 4th one this year. Your "new" ride isn't even new, so of course you'll have more miles on yours than I do on my brand new one. I just got it around the middle of this month and the day I picked it up I took it on a trip so I could put some miles on it. I got almost 100 miles from home but before I even got to the trails one of the trailer tires exploded and tore the fender off. It was the middle of the night before I got the tire changed so I came home. The next day I got a new tire and a few days later on Saturday the firearms deer season started. By law I'm not allowed to ride November 15-30, except for a couple hours in the middle of the day and that would just **** off a bunch of guys with highpowered rifles and scopes. I'm not going to break the law and get fined to ride the rest of the day, and possibly get shot at, when I can just wait until next week and ride my 2 week old ATV legally, all day and night.
The next time you think you have something to say to me, please do me a favor and don't say anything. Or at least do yourself the favor of finding out WTF you're talking about first. Maybe that's just too darned simple for you, and you need to find a way of making things way more complicated. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Ya to each his own, I prefer to use a regular snow shovel instead of a plow, a regular old bumper is fine for me, don't plan on crashing into too much, my posture is pretty good so I just sit up straight, don't need a backrest, a regular old pair of gloves works for me, don't need fancy hand warmers, and of course a regular map suits me fine, don't really need help getting back to the truck. Not really sure why you would need a GPS anyway, if all you have ridden is 1 mile.</end quote></div>
I don't need fancy hand warmers either. I never had a pair in my life. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
I've ridden thousands of miles on my ATVs but only ridden THIS ATV less than a mile because it's my 3rd or 4th one this year. Your "new" ride isn't even new, so of course you'll have more miles on yours than I do on my brand new one. I just got it around the middle of this month and the day I picked it up I took it on a trip so I could put some miles on it. I got almost 100 miles from home but before I even got to the trails one of the trailer tires exploded and tore the fender off. It was the middle of the night before I got the tire changed so I came home. The next day I got a new tire and a few days later on Saturday the firearms deer season started. By law I'm not allowed to ride November 15-30, except for a couple hours in the middle of the day and that would just **** off a bunch of guys with highpowered rifles and scopes. I'm not going to break the law and get fined to ride the rest of the day, and possibly get shot at, when I can just wait until next week and ride my 2 week old ATV legally, all day and night.
The next time you think you have something to say to me, please do me a favor and don't say anything. Or at least do yourself the favor of finding out WTF you're talking about first. Maybe that's just too darned simple for you, and you need to find a way of making things way more complicated. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
#5
It's always humorous to me when people get a taste of their own medicine, if you had taken your own advice and as you wrote. "The next time you think you have something to say to me, please do me a favor and don't say anything."
I simply found a way to inflate all 4 tires to exactly the same pressure at the same time, it works for me, all I wanted to do was share. But I guess some people don't get it. Nice language by the way, real class act. Oh and thanks for the reminder, I do need to update my profile signature. Sorry just can't help myself, but 3rd or 4th ATV this year, Wow either you need to buy a real machine that will last more than 3 or 4 months, or learn how to make them last longer than that. Maybe start with getting the tire pressures equal so you don't have an unfortunate mishap and have to replace machines that often, also you wouldn't need that deluxe front brushguard and rear bumper. Oh sorry I screwed up really bad on my last post, should have wrote thumb warmer instead of hard warmer, my bad.
I simply found a way to inflate all 4 tires to exactly the same pressure at the same time, it works for me, all I wanted to do was share. But I guess some people don't get it. Nice language by the way, real class act. Oh and thanks for the reminder, I do need to update my profile signature. Sorry just can't help myself, but 3rd or 4th ATV this year, Wow either you need to buy a real machine that will last more than 3 or 4 months, or learn how to make them last longer than that. Maybe start with getting the tire pressures equal so you don't have an unfortunate mishap and have to replace machines that often, also you wouldn't need that deluxe front brushguard and rear bumper. Oh sorry I screwed up really bad on my last post, should have wrote thumb warmer instead of hard warmer, my bad.
#6
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: RotaxsRok
It's always humorous to me when people get a taste of their own medicine, if you had taken your own advice and as you wrote. "The next time you think you have something to say to me, please do me a favor and don't say anything."
I simply found a way to inflate all 4 tires to exactly the same pressure at the same time, it works for me, all I wanted to do was share. But I guess some people don't get it. Nice language by the way, real class act. Oh and thanks for the reminder, I do need to update my profile signature. Sorry just can't help myself, but 3rd or 4th ATV this year, Wow either you need to buy a real machine that will last more than 3 or 4 months, or learn how to make them last longer than that. Maybe start with getting the tire pressures equal so you don't have an unfortunate mishap and have to replace machines that often, also you wouldn't need that deluxe front brushguard and rear bumper. Oh sorry I screwed up really bad on my last post, should have wrote thumb warmer instead of hard warmer, my bad.</end quote></div>
I see you didn't take my advice and you're <u>still</u> spouting off when you don't know what the frak you're talking about. Why does that not surprise me? Could it be that you're really <u>that</u> predictable, even to people who don't know you? Update your profile whenever you want. There's no need to thank me.
My ATVs were all REAL MACHINES, and they would last longer if no one stole them. I believe I <u>have</u> learned how to make them last longer, and it's certainly not by having the tire pressure equal. I think the alarm and all the locks I have on it will be much more effective at preventing theft than your pressure equalizing manifold would ever be. Keeping my tire pressure equal doesn't eliminate the need for a brushguard and bumper either. When I was parked and got rear-ended this summer the properly maintained tire pressure didn't save me from incurring any major damage, but the deluxe rear bumper did. You say you don't need one, but it was a wise investment for me. It more than paid for itself that day.
Equal pressure doesn't stop a tire from going flat when you run something over either. When there's a catastrohic failure, the tire pressure becomes unequal in a hurry. Proper and equal tire pressure isn't the answer to every possible problem. But if it was, that's okay, because I know what my tire pressure is to within less than 1/4 of one PSI before I ride. I don't feel a need to make a complicated solution to such a simple problem as equalizing tire pressure. If one tire has too much pressure... I let a little out... psssssst... and the pressure is equal. Simple problem, simple solution.
It's always humorous to me when people get a taste of their own medicine, if you had taken your own advice and as you wrote. "The next time you think you have something to say to me, please do me a favor and don't say anything."
I simply found a way to inflate all 4 tires to exactly the same pressure at the same time, it works for me, all I wanted to do was share. But I guess some people don't get it. Nice language by the way, real class act. Oh and thanks for the reminder, I do need to update my profile signature. Sorry just can't help myself, but 3rd or 4th ATV this year, Wow either you need to buy a real machine that will last more than 3 or 4 months, or learn how to make them last longer than that. Maybe start with getting the tire pressures equal so you don't have an unfortunate mishap and have to replace machines that often, also you wouldn't need that deluxe front brushguard and rear bumper. Oh sorry I screwed up really bad on my last post, should have wrote thumb warmer instead of hard warmer, my bad.</end quote></div>
I see you didn't take my advice and you're <u>still</u> spouting off when you don't know what the frak you're talking about. Why does that not surprise me? Could it be that you're really <u>that</u> predictable, even to people who don't know you? Update your profile whenever you want. There's no need to thank me.
My ATVs were all REAL MACHINES, and they would last longer if no one stole them. I believe I <u>have</u> learned how to make them last longer, and it's certainly not by having the tire pressure equal. I think the alarm and all the locks I have on it will be much more effective at preventing theft than your pressure equalizing manifold would ever be. Keeping my tire pressure equal doesn't eliminate the need for a brushguard and bumper either. When I was parked and got rear-ended this summer the properly maintained tire pressure didn't save me from incurring any major damage, but the deluxe rear bumper did. You say you don't need one, but it was a wise investment for me. It more than paid for itself that day.
Equal pressure doesn't stop a tire from going flat when you run something over either. When there's a catastrohic failure, the tire pressure becomes unequal in a hurry. Proper and equal tire pressure isn't the answer to every possible problem. But if it was, that's okay, because I know what my tire pressure is to within less than 1/4 of one PSI before I ride. I don't feel a need to make a complicated solution to such a simple problem as equalizing tire pressure. If one tire has too much pressure... I let a little out... psssssst... and the pressure is equal. Simple problem, simple solution.
#7
Your idea already exists (at least for 2 tires at a time). Drag racers have been using them for decades.
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#8
Hey jumbofrank---Talk about predictable, poke a little fun at you and you go off on some tirade to justify everything and then lash out. You make me laugh. I suppose I should learn to use the kids lingo and put an LOL or a JK after each sarcastic statement. . Of course precise air pressure is not that big of a deal. I take it more serious than I probably should, but I had fun designing and building it. The end result is it serves a function and a purpose for me. Good luck with keeping all those machines from being stolen, not only for your sake, but for the rest of us who have to pay increased insurance premiums because of things like that.
#9
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: RotaxsRok
Hey jumbofrank---Talk about predictable, poke a little fun at you and you go off on some tirade to justify everything and then lash out. You make me laugh. I suppose I should learn to use the kids lingo and put an LOL or a JK after each sarcastic statement. . Of course precise air pressure is not that big of a deal. I take it more serious than I probably should, but I had fun designing and building it. The end result is it serves a function and a purpose for me. Good luck with keeping all those machines from being stolen, not only for your sake, but for the rest of us who have to pay increased insurance premiums because of things like that.</end quote></div>
Believe me, I'm doing my best to keep your insurance rates from going up. I wouldn't want my thousands of dollars in losses to inconveience <u>you</u>. But if you want to blame someone for the rate increases, blame the thieves who steal things, and don't blame crimes on the victims of thefts. That's like blaming a wonan for being raped. She's not the one who committed the crime. I suppose you consider this going off on a tirade and lashing out too. You would never do that would you?
Hey jumbofrank---Talk about predictable, poke a little fun at you and you go off on some tirade to justify everything and then lash out. You make me laugh. I suppose I should learn to use the kids lingo and put an LOL or a JK after each sarcastic statement. . Of course precise air pressure is not that big of a deal. I take it more serious than I probably should, but I had fun designing and building it. The end result is it serves a function and a purpose for me. Good luck with keeping all those machines from being stolen, not only for your sake, but for the rest of us who have to pay increased insurance premiums because of things like that.</end quote></div>
Believe me, I'm doing my best to keep your insurance rates from going up. I wouldn't want my thousands of dollars in losses to inconveience <u>you</u>. But if you want to blame someone for the rate increases, blame the thieves who steal things, and don't blame crimes on the victims of thefts. That's like blaming a wonan for being raped. She's not the one who committed the crime. I suppose you consider this going off on a tirade and lashing out too. You would never do that would you?
#10
Not sure how you come to the conclusion that I was blaming you for your quads being stolen, in fact I wished you luck in keeping them secured. I guess your interpretation of my post is the predictable lashing out I talked about. For me at least, this topic has run its course, I think I'll move on to dreaming up some other way to make things more complicated. I'm sure you have better things to do also, I wouldn't want you to be the reason you weren't able to keep up your daily average of 15.81 posts per day. Wow 3,305 posts in less than 7 months. Impressive .....JK ........LOL


