Actually I've never met one person in the group (and I don't really want to) but I've seen a few and I'm not impressed...my g/f is from Reedsport and is very familiar with the riding groups and and what they do and how they act. Her and a bunch of her friends used to hang out with the sandwizards and all they wanna do is get drunk, fight, break laws, have sex with underage teenagers, and be completly disrespectful to other riders and the riding area! All they do is use their expensive toys and trucks as an advantage to try to score, they are just low life losers and their desperatness makes me laugh. They are the kind of guys that ruin it for all of us! I could get into more detail about the sandwizards but I believe it would be very inappropriate for this forum and what I just said is prolly enough to make the point.

I don't know if they are ALL like this but I think I trust the MANY different people that have told me this same thing. I don't know if you guys are also like this but if you are I suggest growing up, and if your not you should join a different riding group because you obviously don't know what your riding group is really like.

I'm sorry if I offended you guys but this is the image your group puts off and it makes them very disliked by many people.


P.S. Banshee hill is p*ssy! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]

 

Ok, yea, we all know that Banshee Hill is not what it used to be. But to keep calling it names, is that your way of being a tough guy. Man if you dont like it DONT RIDE IT.


But as far as the Sandwizards go I am not personally a member of their Club but I am a Sandwizard forum member and have also camped with them and I would say that they are good peoples. They are friendly, they organize Dune clean ups. And if you have ever visited their site you would see how Family oriented their club is.

You shouldnt slander people, especially when all you are doing is spreading rumors with hear say information. IMO, you shouldnt of said that over national internet, you should of did a pm to Desracer, because That was some pretty harsh sh_t and you have no clue if its true or not.

 

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Originally posted by: SUGGExatcally...I don't ride it!

And just to let you know they arn't rumors [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] I wouldn't say that on here if it wern't true, I think I trust what I've been told by my many LOCAL sources, they are pretty reliable! Theres always a bad side to every good...think about it, just cause you've camped with a few and seen them do whatever they do doesn't mean the other half of the group aren't complete sleeze bags! Personally any group with people like the ones I've heard about I wouldn't wanna be part of at all!

Sorry to all you friendly family oriented sandwizards out there! Keep the dune clean up goin! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

Attn: "chump-bubba"

You need to get your facts correct before you start spouting your mouth about false truths you make up. Despit what your 15 yr old girlfriend must be telling you about being jelous of people that have invested alot of money and pride in there trucks trailers and bikes she must just be jelous and want to be associated with my group.

Before we get to far let me give you some background I was born and raised in Reedsport went to school there K-12, my parents still live in winchester bay while I now reside in Coos Bay. In a town of less that 4000 people like Reedsport my family has lived there for more than 40 years, I know virtually everybody, probably where they live and all there family also. Needless to say my family is well know so this tells me you are getting your crap info from people out of the area that are jelous or some local little girls that are very jelous, probably the later of the two.

I am the co-president of Sand Wizards Racing Club, I can honestly tell you and am one of a very few things in this club. First I am one of the youngest at 27. and I am one of only a couple that is not married with kids. with about 50 members in our club if you have seen us camped or visited our camps before you have met almost everyone in our group. Our group prouds itself on being a family orientated adult ride group, maybe you should go out and take a look at our site and mayby ask around for some second oppinions about us before passing judgment.

And Last bigbubba or should I say (Darren since that is you name) you should be very carefull what you say about My Group, they are like my family and 19 yr old punk kids that drive little blue chevy S-10's that live in eugene and has a GF in Reedsport is walking on eggshells speaking they way you just did and insulting us as a group someone you have never met. I will tell you this BOY My name is Brian I drive a 99 dodge on 40's with "SAND WIZARDS RACING" accross the windsheild. You see me and want to further this conversation please feel free to introduce yourself and prepare for a...............a.............a..lesson in being a adult........yea that is what we will call it........a lesson..........PUNK.......

SUGG, thanks for the kind words man you are welcome to hang with us anyday, as for anyone else I amy have offended I appologize please got out and check our site out and make up your own mind about people and meet them before you judge them.....

WIZ-1

 

there is an easy way to solve this difference of opinion,,, big bub,,, next time you are out riding and see a red white and blue flags follow them to camp and maybe hang a little,,, you say you have never met any of these "BAD PEOPLE" maybe its time,,, to bad we can't post picts here,just links,,, cause if your bike ever broke down and the wizards were around i have seen what looked like a nascar crew working on machines that didn't even belong to the group,,, a group of riders that organize events to help clean and hopefully keep open riding areas really deserves a first hand look ,,,,, some of you oregon riders don't realize what you have!!!!!! AND I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH,,,, being from washington i have to drive 6 hours to the dunes ,, and so i hope you guys take care of them while i am away , cause i will be back and hopefully there will still be a WELCOME sign in the window!!!!! PEACE OUT,KASEY

 

LMFAO!!! You just proved my point, thank you very much Mr. Vice Prez!

By the way me and my G/F are 20 and goto college (infos a little old), she prolly knows more people in Reedsport than you'll ever know, her families been there for over 100 years. I'm not hearin rumors, and judging by your little reply I think I'm right! Take your redneck attitude back to your sandwizard buddies you punk a$$ tough guy! You sound like your got little man syndrome...cool down jerk!

LMAO...You can call it a lesson but I (and the law) call it assult...have fun BRIAN...

KASEY: Your reply was much more thoughtful than the poor image Brian displayed, thank you for this. If Brian didn't reply so harshly I might of been convinced to make the extra step and see if they are nice guys...but I think I see what it's like now.

 

yea little man syndrome that is what it is, you clearly have no clue who you are pissing off at this point. As far as the lesson you will get at no point did I ever mention anything about assult I am just a little guy you probably would kick my butt anyway..........one day punk we will meet....and I have lots of local 17 year old buddies that would just love to get ahold of fresh meat if you know what I mean.... you better hope that raptor is as fast as you say it is..........

Redneck-up pretty boy

 

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Originally posted by: BigBubba
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LMFAO!!! You just proved my point, thank you very much Mr. Vice Prez!

By the way me and my G/F are 20 and goto college (infos a little old), she prolly knows more people in Reedsport than you'll ever know, her families been there for over 100 years. I'm not hearin rumors, and judging by your little reply I think I'm right! Take your redneck attitude back to your sandwizard buddies you punk a$$ tough guy! You sound like your got little man syndrome...cool down jerk!

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Now BigBubba,
I am not quite sure what point you THINK Wiz1 has made for you.
Hmm let me think you essentially accused the Wizards INCLUDING him and his
family and close friends of the following.

"all they wanna do is get drunk, fight, break laws, have sex with underage teenagers, and be completly disrespectful to other riders and the riding area"

And you think someone reacting the way Wiz1 did is odd?

I consider myself a NON-violent person and can stand alot of trash talking,
but HAD you accuesd me or my family members in Person in front of others
(which is exactly what you have done just you choose to stay hidden behind a
keyboard) of the same things...
Well you would find a bag a handy thing to carry your teeth home in.

Now this is not a threat or any kind of intimidation, but just something for you to
consider when you engage in the spread of baseless rumors.
Yes I said baseless, considering you have never even met a single member of this
club and yet you have based your opinion on what others have told you and called them facts.
Refering to these people as reliable sources seems to me to be an opinion in itself.

My family and I have had the chance NO pleasure to ride, camp and hang out
with the GOOD people of the Sand Wizards on many occasions now.
I find myself sitting here scatching my head trying to figure out where in the world
yourself or others could have come up with such a preposterous list of "facts".

I myself have NEVER witnessed ANY hint of such behavior.
Thats my opinion and it comes from my own personal experiences,
Not from second or third hand information.
I would still hope an intelligent person could form their own thoughts and not
depend on what others have said, good or bad.

In closing My final opinion I will subject you to is this.
I have not met a club or people that were more willing to help others they did not
even know, or organize an event to clean up after other users of the dunes
that once again they probably did not know.

I hope you might get a chance to meet these GOOD people in real life
and form YOUR own opinions.

 

You just keep proving my previous points more and more...congrats...Have a good one Brian.

SANDHOG: I didn't insult his family, I insulted (in general) the attitude of the group of riders.


I'm off to Alaska to fish for King Salmon tomorrow! OR WAIT, TODAY! It's gonna be awesome. Have fun guys!

 

hope you have fun up there bubba, and i hope you like it so much you stay there...i have to ask, what exactly did you hope to achieve with your post ******* on my group? did you expect it to go unanswered? did you think we were going to set back and let you tell lie's and talk down about us without saying anything? i dont have a clue where you got your info from but you realy must check your fact's before you go runnin your mouth about our group since our members are some of the nicest, most helpfull people you will find at the dunes...how many group's will you find that will help out anyone, and i mean anyone who come's by our camp with a problem? when's the last time you organized a dune clean up to pick up after all the other lame asses who think the dunes are there to dump there trash on? how many groups do you know that make a stand and activly participate when special intrest group's try to say our sport destroy's the environment and causes more harm than good so they can shut down our riding area's you probably sit back and take for granted?have you ever even thought about anyone but yourself that's involved in this sport? if you actualy had a clue about us or what we are trying to do for this sport then you would retract your stupid *** comment about my family YES FAMILY! not by blood but by shared intrest and respect for one another in our view's and opinion's about this sport and how to make it better not just for us but for all the people involved...even those who dont give a rat's *** about it and do there best to ruin it for the rest of us. now junior i suggest before you go talkin trash you do a little research and form your own opinion before repeating some crap you heard from so and so who was told by you know who cause your story just dont work....you can keep on talkin but just to let ya know, it's all b.s... it's been said here that you should come and meat us and find out how nice we are and make your own opinion instead of repeating the lie's you've heard.. i disagree, cause from the sound of it your the kind of person i realy dont want to be associated with. and i know it's just feeding into your little fabricated story but i hope we never meet face to face cause if you talk that trash to me i'll take it just like i said...your putting down my family so dont be suprised when your callin your dentist to fix your teeth buddy...