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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 06:23 PM
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hi all,
ive had a 91 honda fourtrax 300 for many years, i got it used, it was used daily on a large apartment complex,and also plowed miles of sidewalks.I use it constantly for work around the yaard and hauling firewood if it had a hourmeter/speedmeter the hours/miles would be incredible only problem i ever had was it needed a coil.just wish it had more speed/power and low range

i want something a little more sportier,small jumps ,powerslide etc while still being able to drag a trailer full of fire wood around. thinking of the 700-850 cc range.
i realy believe simpler is better the less electronic stuff the less problems

i dont even know if such machine exists theese days but id like:
to be able to shift between 2 and 4 wd
hi/low range
front diff locker preferably manual
dont want electric shift
carburated
any ideas? thanks
 
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 08:14 AM
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All 550cc and up and many 500s have everything you listed. Only Honda has no diff lock system and only there 500 Rubicon has a low range.

No Big Bore 4x4 I seen would jump to well, and any 4x4 even a 350 or 400 will pull good especially if it has low range and a true 4wd system.

Once your in the 500cc there all going to power slide and have decent speed.

Not even sure if there is a full ime 4wd ATV made anymore.

The only "Big Bore" option that you did not mention is do you want it to be a twin or single cylinder.

Honda ,Yamaha, and Suzuki,s big bores are all singles.

Polaris ,Kawasaki and Can AM are Twins.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 10:52 AM
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Power sliding with a utility machine is easier once you get above the 500cc engines. More power, the more you are able to break the tail out to slide it in corners. You need to use more body English than with smaller solid axle machines. You can do some pretty good jumps on a utility. I wouldn't recommend any Nitro Circus type stunts though. In the right hands a ute can do pretty well. This is a friend of my son's. He jumped at least 20 feet on a couple of them. Polaris have the strongest frames for the kind of abuse a trail can dish out.

Most mechanically simple I can think of is the Brute Force 750. It has a little yellow lever on the left side that you pull to progressively go from limited slip to full lock. Can-Am and Polaris have systems where the front locks as needed once you put it in 4wd. They are both very seamless now. Suzuki, Arctic Cat, and Yamaha all use a push button system to achieve full lock. Polaris still makes the Sportsman 500 with a carb.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 03:50 PM
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thanks, i havenot been out looking at machines yet just trying to get an idea where to start, are the 700-850 cc atvs the real large "wide" machines?
im also seeing that some atvs have an automatic 4wd when the rear tires slip it automaticly engages the front axle,
 
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 04:14 PM
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Most of the 500 class are just as wide as the 700-850s. The 4x4 system you described is how Polaris works. If you want to you can also leave it in 4x2.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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Polaris and Can-Am have the systems that sense a difference in speed between the rear wheels and the fronts. When slip is detected in the rear they give power to the front. Both are pretty seamless now but older Can-Ams were slower to engage. Much more gradual than the newer system. The widest machines are about 48" wide. Think Polaris is this wide with the others being an inch or two thinner.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rbushmaster
thanks, i havenot been out looking at machines yet just trying to get an idea where to start, are the 700-850 cc atvs the real large "wide" machines?
im also seeing that some atvs have an automatic 4wd when the rear tires slip it automaticly engages the front axle,
Depends on the manufacturer.

The are only 3 sizes of ATV chassis, Full ,Mid and Small. (Not counting 2 ups and kids)

A polaris 400 Sportsman has the same Chassis as a 800 Sportsman now.
A 500 Suzuki King Quad has the same chassis as a 750 King Quad.
Same with a 500 Can Am Outlander and 800 / 1000 Outlander.

A 450 Grizzly is smaller physically then a 550 Grizzly which in turn is the same size as a 700 Grizzly.

Check this site out http://www.atvreviewnetwork.com/enth...2=309771&go=Go punch in any, make, model ,year and see how many share the same chassis.

They only make a few Chassis and stick different motors in them,to cut production cost.

Also don,t be fooled with sports 4wd ATVs, usally just the same Utility model with spoty plastic and no racks at most. http://www.atvreviewnetwork.com/enth...2=309738&go=Go

http://www.atvreviewnetwork.com/enth...2=315228&go=Go
 
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