The CPSC's "Voluntary" Rules have meant the demise of a lot of stuff, Including 3 wheelers. For the limited good they have done, they are socialists and should be stopped.

 

Could you explain how you made the inductive leap from consumer product safety watchdog group to a socialist political group? And what are you actually proposing that we stop them from doing? Making safety recommendations to just the OHV industry or just cease their operations all together?

Well, that's kinda the idea. There is a comment period in place to serve this purpose. Further, I certainly didn't suggest waiting if you anyone thinks the time to act is now and they are well-informed enough on the issues to form their own position versus relying on what's on a manufacturer's website.

You have a much more nimble mind than me though. I spent 5 minutes on the CPSC website reading up on "the other side" of the issue and my brain started to hurt with all the science involved. I may never understand it. Kudos to you.

Well ya, but the CPSC is in Bethesda, MD.

 

Yes it is. Thats why I said "DC related".

 

Every time the government gets involved in something means TROUBLE,
and closer to a socialist society and less FREEDOM for us all. I sent my letters. The time to stop this is NOW!

 

Perfect, let's complain about the quality of products when recalls are issued and turn around and flame the same organization that tries to prevent recalls by developing standards.

 

These standards have nothing to do with recalls. Hooked is right about the government.

 

CPSC are bunch of elitist that think we (the general public) will not survive ourselves if they don't tell us not to let our kids chew on car tires. Is a wonder anyone survived with out bike helmets and knee pads for roller skates. And for you to try to draw some distinction between DC and Bethesda MD speaks volumes. JMO

 

Really? Nothing? How do you think recalls come to fruition? SOme standard was not met (or yet created) leading to some adverse consumer experience, thus resulting in a recall.

As for being right about the government, those statements are incorrect and gross over exaggerations at best. EVERY time the government is involved means trouble? C'mon. I guess we should just start to pay all those manufacturers for all those recalls that were issued against them which they addressed without cost to consumers because the government had something to do with them? Or maybe we should do away with the tax subsidies that farmers (BIG OHV consumers) receive? Oh ,you're not a farmer? well maybe you should forfeit your mortgage interest deductions on your home because, ya know, that is a government assistance program overall.

Actually, the fact that you mistook my word play on DC/Bethesda to actually draw a distinction between them speaks volumes about YOU. It was a poor play on words, I admit, but seriously, you shouldn't take everything you read on the internet so literally (despite the obvious funny face emoticons that followed my "distinction").

I thank you for waiting until other members backed your sentiments before you responded to my inquiry. I am now confident that I have no idea what link you are trying to draw between CPSC and socialism, or wait, is it now elitism? Which one is it? Take your time to think about it and post back. Maybe someone else will try to pick up your slack again while you think about it.

My point is and has always been, don't just take the word of some organization on matters related to regulatory affairs or government affairs in general. Chances are that organization has some sort of ulterior motive to take the position that it has taken. THose organizations (whether it be a manufacturer, the government, some special interest group, etc) are banking on you to not do any other research besides what is printed in their material.

With that said, Polaris may be spot on with their position but I have a feeling that this issue is more complex than it is. Don't believe me? Pull down some of the comments that were submitted to CPSC and it won't take you long to conclude that the science involved deserves more than a cursory scan to be able to take an informed stance. Or maybe the fact that these voluntary "rules" have been being discussed for years without a final disposition yet in place might be another clue.

Be informed or not, it's your prerogative, but all this talk about the CPSC and the government as "trouble" or socialistic or elitist is just rhetoric.

 

When government, not private industry, gets involved with anything it means we, the consumers, have to pay for an extra level of bureaucracy. Competition is what presently defines most of quad and ATV design criteria, not government standards. Government intrusion is what caused 3 wheelers to go the way of the dodo. In their own right and properly ridden I never felt in danger on ome but government deemed them unsafe and the manufacturers stopped making them rather than dealing with government rules and lawsuits. The less the government gets involved and the more we let private industry and consumers dictate design the better.

 

What's to stop them from claiming that 4 wheelers are too unsafe and will no longer be sold just like the 3 wheelers?