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Old May 16, 2000 | 06:51 PM
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I have decided that i'm going to go with the 426 piston and just bore the cylinder to fit. I just can't decide on the 10:1 or 11:1 piston. I know the 11:1 piston needs 100 octane, but what octane do need for the 10:1 piston? What kind of difference in power between the two? I was leaning towards the 11:1, but i don't want to have to run the 100 octane all the time.
 
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Old May 16, 2000 | 07:01 PM
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The power is pretty close between the two and the 10 to 1 will run perfectly on 93 or the highest pump gas u can get.
 
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Old May 16, 2000 | 07:03 PM
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well i will tell you if your gona do it you might as well go with 11 to 1. i was told to run nothing
under 104 so i found some 100 octane av gas the guy said that it would be fine, well i put it in
and i could not get it tuned in then to find out
you can't get a good reading off of high octane
so i put in 94 pump gas and got it dialed in
then put in the 100 av gas again and it ran like
crap, so i poured it out again and put 94 back in
and it runs like a raped ape

99 426ex 11 to1 compresion, 3 angle port job, web cam, wb rev box, k/n, dyno jet kit, 6 air box vents, ids-2 super trapp pipe, 14 tooth sproket,
and 94 octane = kick *** power
 
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Old May 16, 2000 | 07:23 PM
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About yhe highest octane pump gas i can get around here is 92. Do you think i could go with the 11:1 piston and run the 92 octane with a good octane booster. Or should i just go with the 10:1 and do the same thing?
 
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Old May 16, 2000 | 07:32 PM
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go to the trxoutlawz web sight and ask them
or look for air or clucth in this forum one of
them has 11 and half to 1 and runs 91
 
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Old May 16, 2000 | 07:46 PM
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I suppose i depends on the cam you are using too. If you go with alot of duration, you are going to have more air shoved into your cylinders, right?
 
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Old May 17, 2000 | 12:20 AM
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FYI, the stock DS650 comes with a 9.7:1 piston and Bombardier recommends 91 octane. The ron wood stage 2 kit for the DS650 comes with an 11:1 piston and they claim you can run on pump gas. Are you sure there isn't a place you can get 93 or 94 octane within a reasonable driving distance from the places you ride? If it were me, I would want to run the highest compression ratio possible.
 
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Old May 17, 2000 | 01:32 AM
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I run the 11:1 but at 4500 ft. I use 91 Pump gas. I havn't had any problems. In responce to the comment about the bigger cam it bleeds off compression at the lower end and at speed you never get a full charge in. The compression you choose should also depend on what cam you use. The wilder the Cam the more bleedoff of compression.

99 426ex , Web Cam, FCR carb w/ twist, CT revlimiter, DMC exhaust, XCT's ,K&N, One kit, Renthal bars, DG nerfs, Armidillo Swingarm plate, 8 paddle Haulers

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Old May 17, 2000 | 11:35 AM
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I have a 10:1 Wiseco 85mm in my 400EX. I run 104 octane because it is readily available around here. I also have one less tooth on the counter sprocket. I did both these mods at the same time so I'm not sure which had the greatest affect but there is a big difference. Much more than when I installed a e-series silencer and K&N filter. Acceleration is much stronger now, it just rockets out of corners. The only down side is that the rev limiter kicks in much sooner. I am definitley going to buy a higher rev CDI.

I am using the stock cam, 160 main jet, 40 slow jet, 3-1/2 turns out on the air screw, and 14 discs on the silencer, at 800 to 1,200 ft elevation.
 
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Old May 17, 2000 | 01:19 PM
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I noticed that Cometic and other gasket makers list the same head gasket for the XR400 and 400EX but I thought EX came with a thicker head gasket stock. So when everyone says they have 10:1 or 11:1 compression which head gasket are they using, the EX or the XR.....(or is there really a difference). I noticed that Weisco now lists an 11:1 piston (stock bore) so with a EX head gasket would you have 10.5:1 compression?
 
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