WOW...now i know what people mean when they say honda is reliable. Last night i want riding w/ my cousin brendon and my brother jarod. we were on r way home brendon was goin up this hill but ut was dusty and he turned sideways and got out of the hill ruts on his 300ex (hes new with a clutch-only his third time w/ it) and he stalled. so jarod got on and tried to turn it and go up, but it turned more sideways and started to flip and he jumped off. it flipped 3 times down the hill and the incredible damage was...........a bent rear break lever...THATS IT talk about reliability

 

ya they are realiable but they are pretty over priced i must say

 

Bike hold up pretty good. I crashed my death hybrid junker at about 60KPH and ended up with a broken steering shaft and a bit of cracked plastic. I didn't come out of it so well [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

i flipped my wheeler off a 50 ft sheer cliff 4 days after i got it ...it end -o 'bout 3-4 times turned sideways and rolled 2-3 times to bottom ...bent left handle bar down 'bout an inch...thats it ...scared me...needless to say i quit try'n to climb those sheer cliffs ..i'm talkin vertical...and rear tires spun down on me and caused top to come back on me...and i was aimost at the top.....where they dug out dirt and its falling off in huge chunks its like clay and u can see the top soil 'bout 4-5 ft. deep way up at the top...thats what screwed me when the back tires got on the top soil they spun and over we went almost 50' in the air

 

sounds more like "durability" than "reliability".

 

So, by your definition a rock would be extremely "reliable".

 

ya it does sounds like luck... i mean i rolld my warrior and i only got a few scrateches and a bent headlight but that's itand i was goin full otu 5th gear

 

mine has done the same thing 5 or 10 times



if i tried to break it i couldn't cause the thing is bullet proof

 

I think you're mixing toughness with reliablility, what you have described, surviving a bad accident/rollover/crash is what more people would call a tough, well built machine. Reliablility is more towards the engine durability, like running for years without changing the oil, tuning it up, cleaning the air filter, or just having run for years and years without having to spend any time or money on maintenence, with no real problems to speak of. Sorry to nitpick, just wanted to clear that up.

 

Ok here's one reason i can say honda made/makes reliable motors

Bought a 84 xr200 (same motor as the atc200's but six gears instead of 5)
Rode it hard for 2 years, cracked frame badly (jumping a dual rear shock bike is not a good idea)
Got a complete rolling frame for an 84 xr200r(the mono shock version)
Rode that until i cracked the frame in half (these early frames used the motor as part of the frame, very weak design)
I was given a kawasaki 110cc trike rolling chassis, so i put the motor in that.
Rode that for a year, it started somking slightly. Decided to change the oil.
Out came chunks of metal. New something was wrong but what the he\\, started it up and drove it for a few more hours.
Hmmm at the time the motor was 13 years old and never had a rebuild. I took it apart even though it would still start right up after 2 kicks.
Here's what i found, a cylinder with the entire bottom of the sleeve missing and a piston with the skirt missing, just one compression ring left.
And the D@m thing still ran. Thats reliable.