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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 11:55 PM
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i am going to start racing next year but i do alot of woods riding and ice riding. i am thinking of either going with a IMS 440 kit with either the 11:1 or the 10:8 compression or getting a 426 kit and either going the same compressions can't deside yet on compression . i would really like to run high octan pumped gas. and i do not want to over heat all the time or have to worry much about reliability that often but i do want alof of poer becasue i ride with raptor and i owuld lie to beat them. my buddy has a 440ex but he has to run race gas i thinkg it is 11:1 with a web cam but wow that thing huals a**. i was thinkg either a hot cam stage 1 or 2 . can you point me in the right drection.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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Default 440kit or 426 which is better for me and compression 10:8 or 11:1

From my knowledge on car engines, I'll say this. The stage 2 cam has almost the same lift but more duration than the stage 1 cam. The more duration will let you build more power on top end. I just installed a stage 1 cam in my 416 yesterday. A good port and polish will complement the cam too. On compression, I don't think that you'll notice any difference from 10:8 to 11:1. This is just my opinion.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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It would be nice to be able to run pump gas but I would go with the higher compression. I usually run race gas on mine but when I can't afford it or its just not convinient I use nos octane boost. If you add a half bottle to a 5 gallon gas can and mix it with 91 cotane you should have just over 100 which should work fine with your high compression piston.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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i would go with the bigger bore and lower compression, otherwise you will be facing reliability problems with high compression....and as far as raptors, youll need some good head porting and a few other doodads to hang.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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also, regearing would help out alot, putting a different sprocket on it will have a noticable change, whether you want topend, or low end......
 
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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Wouldn't the Stage 2 make a 416 "chug" on the bottom end?
 
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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what compression piston are you running?? when going really slow it will chug a bit. if you have the rpms up a tad, you will be just fine. i wouldn't get the stage 1 unless you like tight trails or putt around a lot.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:11 AM
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i have the 10.8-1...
 
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:20 AM
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sanman66 do you run pumed gas or race gas?
 
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 03:03 AM
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i prefer the stage 2 with that 10.8 compression piston because i like the power in mid to top. if you are wanting more low to mid, the stage 1 will be better. for drag racing, the stage 2 will perform better for yourself.

i run a 10.8 compression piston (406) with thinner head gaskets which will bump the compression up around 11:1 or so. i also use pump fuel and i don't have any knocking or pinging. it runs great. the fuel additive or octane boosts many times make your bike run hotter from what i read. i was told they may leave more deposits in the bike and won't help performance. i personally stay away.
 
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