Hold on now, there might be a Foreman 475 2 wheel drive, 475 foot shift model and ES model. Look under Hondas media newsroom area and there's different kinds of 475's. I don't have time to read all the fine print right now but I think that's what I saw.

 

I think there is also the Recon ES and Recon.

 

Foreman 2x4- $5299. Foreman 4x4- $6299. and Foreman 4x4 ES- $6499. (All 475cc)

I feel better now that I understand that there are footshifts. Well, I think that there are.

 

Yep, there's definately a 2 wheel drive Foreman. Looks like the price is $5299. Here's the press release:

http://www.hondanews.com/CatID7453?m...31383&mime=asc

Here's the link to all the Honda ATV press releases:

http://www.hondanews.com/CatID7426

 

As a product engineer, I am here to tell you that you are absolutely correct. Look at how the Z400 and the Rappy where ripped when they weren't completely validated and made available, trannys were breaking, electrical problems, etc. etc. Honda has, is and always will hang their hat on reliability. Alot of these guys forget, that XR400 engine has been around for over 25 years and has won more Baja races than any other quad made. Why would change something that doesn't need improving. Yes, liquid cooling would be nice, but they did give it reverse, and with the gearing, nobody has ridden it, so they don't know really how it will perform. I too am upset that the 650ex wasn't released this year, but I would rather wait a year, and let them perfect it from a engineering/validation standpoint, before I put $6 or 7 K down on one. Just one man's thoughts.

 

http://www.hondanews.com/CatID7426

Nice to see they didn't abandon foot shifting, like it appeared at first. Actually, the foot shift Foreman 475 looks pretty good to me.

Notice they are calling the Rincon a "recreation" bike, not a utility.

 

honda needs a full locker and more power in the big bore class

 

i used to own a foot shift 450 foreman that was a great reliable bike just needs a locker and a little bit softer suspension it not bad it just could be better

 

****, if they were smart i know a quad that i know i would want would be the cr250f motor on the 250ex frame with 450r plastics with some awsome supension. that would be a light weight, racing, trail and awsome quad.

 

One of the biggest dreams I've had in my entire life was that one day, I could take over the entire ATV department at Honda. I would throw out all the existing models and restart the entire sport and utility lineups from scratch. All it would take for Honda to regain their quad supremacy would be for them to LISTEN TO A KNOWLEDGABLE forum member here instead of offering "bold new styling" on the same outdated machine for 5+ years. If I could control the engineers at Honda ATV, we would have a killer lineup. I'm sure many of the forum members here could do the same.