Need some advice dealing with Honda Recon, carburator problems maybe?
Oct 20, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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Need some advice dealing with Honda Recon, carburator problems maybe?
Originally posted by: KNOWSALOT
You have cleaned the carburetor and the fuel is good with no contaminants in the fuel tank right?
Other things to look for......
sticking choke cable and/or choke plunger [this is a big problem with all the newer Honda models and should be the first thing to check]
clogged vent line from gas cap
clogged vent line from float bowl
obstruction in the intake tract [a.k.a....dirt dobber nests]
have you cleaned your airfilter?
flush the fuel tank and replace with fresh gas.
Forget changing jets and adjusting things. This is never a fix for anything and should only be messed with if you have modified the intake or exhaust in some way. Doing these things to a known good running engine prior to the sudden foul up will only cause you problems later on. Sure, a jetting change may be a simple fix for now, but you are compensating for a problem that is not related to jetting and the problem will come back to haunt you later and then you are really in a fix because you have been messing with the jetting.
Does that make any sense?
You have cleaned the carburetor and the fuel is good with no contaminants in the fuel tank right?
Other things to look for......
sticking choke cable and/or choke plunger [this is a big problem with all the newer Honda models and should be the first thing to check]
clogged vent line from gas cap
clogged vent line from float bowl
obstruction in the intake tract [a.k.a....dirt dobber nests]
have you cleaned your airfilter?
flush the fuel tank and replace with fresh gas.
Forget changing jets and adjusting things. This is never a fix for anything and should only be messed with if you have modified the intake or exhaust in some way. Doing these things to a known good running engine prior to the sudden foul up will only cause you problems later on. Sure, a jetting change may be a simple fix for now, but you are compensating for a problem that is not related to jetting and the problem will come back to haunt you later and then you are really in a fix because you have been messing with the jetting.
Does that make any sense?
I have done all of that and it still isn't working right.
Oct 21, 2004 | 02:05 AM
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Need some advice dealing with Honda Recon, carburator problems maybe?
Hmmm, i just bought an '02 250 ES tonight. while driving up my steep truck deck ramp, it stalled. then it just rolled backwards at fast speed (thot i was holding the brakes). i haven't had a chance to trouble shoot anything yet, at all. BUT, i can say i don't want to discover this problem while out riding. so when you do figure it out, please let me know. in the meantime, i could have carb issues as I'm stalling lots on cold start. so i'll take mine apart and clean 'er up and see where we go from there.
Oct 21, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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damn thats odd! where did you buy it from? and how many hours on it? did you check the following.... SparkPlug,Airfilter,carb (floatbowl,jets) check all that 1st
Oct 22, 2004 | 12:59 AM
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Need some advice dealing with Honda Recon, carburator problems maybe?
Try removing the round plastic baffle that slips over the main jet. It may be causing an air pocket when the unit is not level, starving the main jet of fuel. ( If this does not cure the problem, reinstall the baffle )
I had a Recon stump me one time, and it turned out to have a bad stator. I really don't understand how it happened, but when the units front end was elevated, it would die. After investigating the stator ( Many hours after trying everything else), I found a break in the windings near 12 o'clock position. I feel it was a freak occorance, but after installing the new stator it was fine.
----- Gimp -----
I had a Recon stump me one time, and it turned out to have a bad stator. I really don't understand how it happened, but when the units front end was elevated, it would die. After investigating the stator ( Many hours after trying everything else), I found a break in the windings near 12 o'clock position. I feel it was a freak occorance, but after installing the new stator it was fine.
----- Gimp -----
Oct 24, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by: Gimpster
Try removing the round plastic baffle that slips over the main jet. It may be causing an air pocket when the unit is not level, starving the main jet of fuel. ( If this does not cure the problem, reinstall the baffle )
I had a Recon stump me one time, and it turned out to have a bad stator. I really don't understand how it happened, but when the units front end was elevated, it would die. After investigating the stator ( Many hours after trying everything else), I found a break in the windings near 12 o'clock position. I feel it was a freak occorance, but after installing the new stator it was fine.
----- Gimp -----
Try removing the round plastic baffle that slips over the main jet. It may be causing an air pocket when the unit is not level, starving the main jet of fuel. ( If this does not cure the problem, reinstall the baffle )
I had a Recon stump me one time, and it turned out to have a bad stator. I really don't understand how it happened, but when the units front end was elevated, it would die. After investigating the stator ( Many hours after trying everything else), I found a break in the windings near 12 o'clock position. I feel it was a freak occorance, but after installing the new stator it was fine.
----- Gimp -----
Oct 24, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by: DarkManX
damn thats odd! where did you buy it from? and how many hours on it? did you check the following.... SparkPlug,Airfilter,carb (floatbowl,jets) check all that 1st
damn thats odd! where did you buy it from? and how many hours on it? did you check the following.... SparkPlug,Airfilter,carb (floatbowl,jets) check all that 1st
Oct 25, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by: DarkManX
damn thats odd! where did you buy it from? and how many hours on it? did you check the following.... SparkPlug,Airfilter,carb (floatbowl,jets) check all that 1st
damn thats odd! where did you buy it from? and how many hours on it? did you check the following.... SparkPlug,Airfilter,carb (floatbowl,jets) check all that 1st
what i really wanna know is how the &%*@ do you adjust the air/fuel screw? i see where it is on the bottom of the carb, but once carb is in, it's too tight to get anything on it. and the pipe is nicely there to remove any layers of wanted skin. anyone know of a special tool or trick to make this adjustment possible??
lance, i know this is probably stupid and shouldn't matter, but have you adjusted valves?
Oct 25, 2004 | 12:33 AM
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If youre getting a poping on decel, then it has a lean condition, in the idle circuit. If you dont have any leaks, intake or exhaust, then going 1/4 turn richer(out), on the mixture screw should do the fix. As long as you know you need to be richer...do it with the motor cold, then you can more easily get your hand in there. Sears or any hardware store, sells #4 flat bit drivers, some have long shanks, and they work well for the screw. There isnt alot of resistance, so just your fingers on the bit will turn it.
Lance3187, That baffle is there, to keep gas surrounding the main jet, while doing whoops and bumps and wheelies. Its the same purpose as baffles in the oil pan of drag cars, or the baffles in the fuel cell in track cars. It keeps the liquid from moving away from the pick up under g forces.
If youre getting a poping on decel, then it has a lean condition, in the idle circuit. If you dont have any leaks, intake or exhaust, then going 1/4 turn richer(out), on the mixture screw should do the fix. As long as you know you need to be richer...do it with the motor cold, then you can more easily get your hand in there. Sears or any hardware store, sells #4 flat bit drivers, some have long shanks, and they work well for the screw. There isnt alot of resistance, so just your fingers on the bit will turn it.
Lance3187, That baffle is there, to keep gas surrounding the main jet, while doing whoops and bumps and wheelies. Its the same purpose as baffles in the oil pan of drag cars, or the baffles in the fuel cell in track cars. It keeps the liquid from moving away from the pick up under g forces.
Oct 25, 2004 | 02:18 AM
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i always thot the more you turn the mixture screw out, the more air you're letting in the mix. shouldn't it go in to get more gas? it's already out 1 3/4 turns. gimpster suggested i turn it in till it stumbles, back it out (counting turns out) until it stumbles, then go half the turns back in for the sweet spot. seemed to make sense if i could turn the darn screw!! but if you're positive about your advice... i'll try it. I'm no expert, but i follow instructions well. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Oct 28, 2004 | 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by: Gimpster
Try removing the round plastic baffle that slips over the main jet. It may be causing an air pocket when the unit is not level, starving the main jet of fuel. ( If this does not cure the problem, reinstall the baffle )
I had a Recon stump me one time, and it turned out to have a bad stator. I really don't understand how it happened, but when the units front end was elevated, it would die. After investigating the stator ( Many hours after trying everything else), I found a break in the windings near 12 o'clock position. I feel it was a freak occorance, but after installing the new stator it was fine.
----- Gimp -----
Try removing the round plastic baffle that slips over the main jet. It may be causing an air pocket when the unit is not level, starving the main jet of fuel. ( If this does not cure the problem, reinstall the baffle )
I had a Recon stump me one time, and it turned out to have a bad stator. I really don't understand how it happened, but when the units front end was elevated, it would die. After investigating the stator ( Many hours after trying everything else), I found a break in the windings near 12 o'clock position. I feel it was a freak occorance, but after installing the new stator it was fine.
----- Gimp -----
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