hey i agree with some of the people..the 250ex isnt a bad quad really. Would you want your 13-14 yr old kid starting out on a quad that goes 50-60 mph or on one that only goes 50 tops? It is a kid and ladies quad plain and simple im sure it will sell BIG time! If you are wanting a FAST sport quad used 400ex's most of the time tricked out are showing up everywhere for sale at a reasonable price. Or like the one guy said Build one. I am going to keep building on my 300ex until Honda comes out with "The Big One". It could be next spring or it could be 2005(by that time i will have a 996ex if i keep workin on my 300 )but anyway Honda made a smart move. Yea im dissapointed but hey Im sure the longer wait will be worth it.This will give them time to see the problems/likes/dislikes with the Raptor/Ds650 and use them to make the best big bore quad out there. This is just my thoughts on the situation.