1984 Honda TRx200
#1
1984 Honda TRx200
Hi All...
I'm a newbie here and to ATV's for the most part.
Any chance of anyone knowing where I can get front shocks for a 1984 TRX200? No dealer has em...I've checked salvage places....nothing.
Also...when I purchased this beater....I took it to a dealer for tune-up and carb rebuild. It still fouls plugs totally out (very black and sooty) after about an hour of total running. Any ideas? Is it carburation? I can only see and have fiddled with the an idle adjustment....
Or....am I looking at bad rings?
Thanks...
I'm a newbie here and to ATV's for the most part.
Any chance of anyone knowing where I can get front shocks for a 1984 TRX200? No dealer has em...I've checked salvage places....nothing.
Also...when I purchased this beater....I took it to a dealer for tune-up and carb rebuild. It still fouls plugs totally out (very black and sooty) after about an hour of total running. Any ideas? Is it carburation? I can only see and have fiddled with the an idle adjustment....
Or....am I looking at bad rings?
Thanks...
#2
1984 Honda TRx200
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#2 compression check and plug check. If compression is ok, then you need to do a proper plug check to see if jetting is off. A 4-stroke shouldn't be fouling plugs like that unless the rings are way shot, or the cab is mis-jetted. Actually, NO quad should be fouling plugs like that, even a 2-stroke if properly jetted.....
#2 compression check and plug check. If compression is ok, then you need to do a proper plug check to see if jetting is off. A 4-stroke shouldn't be fouling plugs like that unless the rings are way shot, or the cab is mis-jetted. Actually, NO quad should be fouling plugs like that, even a 2-stroke if properly jetted.....
#3
1984 Honda TRx200
My first thought was compression (rings). I've got a snap-on compression tester without the small adapter needed for that size plug. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] So I haven't taken the compression yet. Although, with a new plug, it starts right up and runs fairly well for such a little motor.
I have a long understanding of two strokes due to snowmobiles....basically zero with four strokes.
The carb that is on this machine...is it similar to a snowmobiles, with a needle and main jet? Not sure what you mean by the "Cab being misjetted"....
If I can find the proper adapter for my comp gauge...I guess that is the only way to narrow this down from rookie perspective. If it is carburation....Not sure what to do....a rather highly rated Honda dealer did the supposed carb rebuild...
Thanks for the response...I really do appreciate it. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
I have a long understanding of two strokes due to snowmobiles....basically zero with four strokes.
The carb that is on this machine...is it similar to a snowmobiles, with a needle and main jet? Not sure what you mean by the "Cab being misjetted"....
If I can find the proper adapter for my comp gauge...I guess that is the only way to narrow this down from rookie perspective. If it is carburation....Not sure what to do....a rather highly rated Honda dealer did the supposed carb rebuild...
Thanks for the response...I really do appreciate it. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
#4
1984 Honda TRx200
Originally posted by: tourbuddy
My first thought was compression (rings). I've got a snap-on compression tester without the small adapter needed for that size plug. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] So I haven't taken the compression yet. Although, with a new plug, it starts right up and runs fairly well for such a little motor.
I have a long understanding of two strokes due to snowmobiles....basically zero with four strokes.
The carb that is on this machine...is it similar to a snowmobiles, with a needle and main jet? Not sure what you mean by the "Cab being misjetted"....
If I can find the proper adapter for my comp gauge...I guess that is the only way to narrow this down from rookie perspective. If it is carburation....Not sure what to do....a rather highly rated Honda dealer did the supposed carb rebuild...
Thanks for the response...I really do appreciate it. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
My first thought was compression (rings). I've got a snap-on compression tester without the small adapter needed for that size plug. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] So I haven't taken the compression yet. Although, with a new plug, it starts right up and runs fairly well for such a little motor.
I have a long understanding of two strokes due to snowmobiles....basically zero with four strokes.
The carb that is on this machine...is it similar to a snowmobiles, with a needle and main jet? Not sure what you mean by the "Cab being misjetted"....
If I can find the proper adapter for my comp gauge...I guess that is the only way to narrow this down from rookie perspective. If it is carburation....Not sure what to do....a rather highly rated Honda dealer did the supposed carb rebuild...
Thanks for the response...I really do appreciate it. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Have you cleaned and oiled the air cleaner recently?
#5
#6
1984 Honda TRx200
Originally posted by: tourbuddy
Actually...no. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
Clean with what? Gas....or Hot Soapy water? Then...what type of oil? How much oil? I don't have a manual for this one and haven't found anything close...and being a rook....Imafool. Thanks.
Actually...no. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
Clean with what? Gas....or Hot Soapy water? Then...what type of oil? How much oil? I don't have a manual for this one and haven't found anything close...and being a rook....Imafool. Thanks.
Gas usually works best, but can be a fire hazard. Kerosine works well also, and is a little safer.
Make sure you allow it to completely dry before applying the oil to the filter. Filter oil is best (can get it at your local shop), but you can also use motor oil in a pinch. Just make sure the entire filter is well oiled (keep squeezing the oil into the oil filter to make sure it is evenly covered).
This may help with the fouling of the rings if the cause is the dirty filter.
You seriously need to get a manual though. It will explain how to do everything, and the proper way to do it. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
#7
1984 Honda TRx200
Sounds to me like the old Honda finally rattled out the needle set, making it run rich. You can raise the clip on the needle one notch and it will help, but will screw up your carb in another area, like causing a flat spot on bottom end. The real cure for it would to replace the neddle jet set. The needle jet, under the main jet, has gotten wollered out from the needle rattling around after all these years. The needle is prolly worn also. If you accellerate in neutral and notice a black puff out the exhaust, this is normally the problem on the older Hondas, and the needle jet set needs replacement. God old Keihin carb, they are noted for this happening after years of use...
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1984 Honda TRx200
I checked the Air Filter this weekend....looked like new. We only PUTT PUTT around with it on our property looking at stuff....
A friend who is into FourStrokes said he thought it's definately carburation....and seeing as we seldom get out of 2nd gear on it...sometimes 3rd....that that is a major contributing factor.
Got tired of the whole thing. My snomo dealer had a 2000 Beartracker in great shape and reasonable...so we bought it.
The 1984 Collectors item is forsale. Frozen front shocks and all... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
A friend who is into FourStrokes said he thought it's definately carburation....and seeing as we seldom get out of 2nd gear on it...sometimes 3rd....that that is a major contributing factor.
Got tired of the whole thing. My snomo dealer had a 2000 Beartracker in great shape and reasonable...so we bought it.
The 1984 Collectors item is forsale. Frozen front shocks and all... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]