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07-03-2005, 03:52 PM
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Does anybody ever read their owners manual??? Your engine requires 91 octane or greater..........see pages 184 and 83 of your owners manual. (There is however a misprint in the "quick reference" section that says 86!) You are risking detonation and harm to your engine running anything less than 91!
One problem with unleaded is that there is no lubrication for the upper cylinder (lead provided this in the old days). Around here 91 octane is the highest pump gas available and it is oxygenated. (If you have 92 where you live, it probably is not oxygenated.) Rather than add some leaded race gas, what I do is add some Klotz ocatne booster(http://www.klotzlube.com/storeProdDetails.asp?pi=50). It boosts the octane slightly for a margin of error against detonation, preserves the gas (in case the gas or bike are in storage a long time), and provides some nice ester synthetic lubrication for the top end. Makes the exhaust smell funny though.
One problem with unleaded is that there is no lubrication for the upper cylinder (lead provided this in the old days). Around here 91 octane is the highest pump gas available and it is oxygenated. (If you have 92 where you live, it probably is not oxygenated.) Rather than add some leaded race gas, what I do is add some Klotz ocatne booster(http://www.klotzlube.com/storeProdDetails.asp?pi=50). It boosts the octane slightly for a margin of error against detonation, preserves the gas (in case the gas or bike are in storage a long time), and provides some nice ester synthetic lubrication for the top end. Makes the exhaust smell funny though.
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Originally posted by: reconranger
Does anybody ever read their owners manual??? Your engine requires 91 octane or greater..........see pages 184 and 83 of your owners manual. (There is however a misprint in the "quick reference" section that says 86!) You are risking detonation and harm to your engine running anything less than 91!
One problem with unleaded is that there is no lubrication for the upper cylinder (lead provided this in the old days). Around here 91 octane is the highest pump gas available and it is oxygenated. (If you have 92 where you live, it probably is not oxygenated.) Rather than add some leaded race gas, what I do is add some Klotz ocatne booster(<a href="http://www.klotzlube.com/storeProdDetails.asp?pi=50">http://www.klotzlube.com/storeProdDe...pi=50</A>[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]. It boosts the octane slightly for a margin of error against detonation, preserves the gas (in case the gas or bike are in storage a long time), and provides some nice ester synthetic lubrication for the top end. Makes the exhaust smell funny though.
Does anybody ever read their owners manual??? Your engine requires 91 octane or greater..........see pages 184 and 83 of your owners manual. (There is however a misprint in the "quick reference" section that says 86!) You are risking detonation and harm to your engine running anything less than 91!
One problem with unleaded is that there is no lubrication for the upper cylinder (lead provided this in the old days). Around here 91 octane is the highest pump gas available and it is oxygenated. (If you have 92 where you live, it probably is not oxygenated.) Rather than add some leaded race gas, what I do is add some Klotz ocatne booster(<a href="http://www.klotzlube.com/storeProdDetails.asp?pi=50">http://www.klotzlube.com/storeProdDe...pi=50</A>[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]. It boosts the octane slightly for a margin of error against detonation, preserves the gas (in case the gas or bike are in storage a long time), and provides some nice ester synthetic lubrication for the top end. Makes the exhaust smell funny though.
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07-03-2005, 08:32 PM
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See this post-- http://forums.atvconnection.com/mess...TARTPAGE/1.cfm
Sorry Xracer, I thought you were a fellow 450R owner, and I assumed you were somebody who couldn't read an owners manual!
It is always helpfull when folks list their (own) bikes, so we know what their frame of reference is.
Sorry Xracer, I thought you were a fellow 450R owner, and I assumed you were somebody who couldn't read an owners manual!
It is always helpfull when folks list their (own) bikes, so we know what their frame of reference is.
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sorry but. im still not really following you correctly. from what i read. only the places that have 91 octane are the ones with problems and need to have that octane booster... correct? but my local gas station has 3 options. regular unleaded (87) octane. Super-unleaded (89) octane and Premium unleaded (92) octane. now i want to know is can i just use the 92 octane and be safe? or will i still need to put that race fuel booster in it too?
if yes.. where can i get some other then ordering it off the internet? would a auto parts store have some?
if yes.. where can i get some other then ordering it off the internet? would a auto parts store have some?
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07-04-2005, 10:38 AM
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If it were me, I would still add some Klotz to any pump gas, if for nothing else but to get some all important lubrication for the upper cylinder. I get my Klotz octane booster from Chaparral, $5.85 a 16 oz. can. That will do 16 gallons of gas (1 oz./gal.). Look around, and you might find it at an auto parts store. (Be carefull, because I don't think most octane boosters contain upper cylinder lubricants!)
It will depend on what octane your own bike requires. For my bikes that requiere 87, I bump it up to 89 for a margin of safety against detonation. For my bikes that require 91, I bump it up to 93.
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It will depend on what octane your own bike requires. For my bikes that requiere 87, I bump it up to 89 for a margin of safety against detonation. For my bikes that require 91, I bump it up to 93.
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k thank you. im gonna call around today and see what stores have some. thats pretty cheap... 5.95 for a 16 ounce (which lasts 16 gallons) i thought it would be more expensive, that why i was a little worried about if i should by the 450R or not. but yea, ill go buy some octane booster soon as i can.
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07-31-2005, 12:55 AM
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Aviation fuel has a lot of lead in it and octane is 100 if the fuel is blue. Unlikely to find any of the 87 octane red fuel any more. Try mixing 3 or 4 parts 87 regular with 1 part avgas. The avgas will put lead deposits on the plugs as well as the valves, so don't run it straight, or tank after tank. Run it occassionally with most pump fuel. Avgas is much more stable in storage than regular pump fuel, which should have 'fuel stabilizer' added and run to put new fuel in the carb if you plan on storing longer than a couple of months without using all the fuel out of the tank.
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