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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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Is it an enclosed trailer? How much does it weigh? A trailer that long should have brakes, did the F150 have a brake controller? Bing, 100lbs would be way to light of a tongue weight for thst setup I would think. You should be looking for between 10% to 15% of the TOTAL trailer weight w/ cargo as your tongue weight. The way I see it, there was at least 1500lbs of machinery alone=150lb minimum tongue weight before figuring in the trailer dry weight.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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10% to 15% of the TOTAL trailer weight w/ cargo
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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No prob, I kind of figured you just misworded that post if you were going through the trouble of a bathroom scale[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
 
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by: Scooter86
Is it an enclosed trailer? How much does it weigh? A trailer that long should have brakes, did the F150 have a brake controller? Bing, 100lbs would be way to light of a tongue weight for thst setup I would think. You should be looking for between 10% to 15% of the TOTAL trailer weight w/ cargo as your tongue weight. The way I see it, there was at least 1500lbs of machinery alone=150lb minimum tongue weight before figuring in the trailer dry weight.
Nope, not an enclosed trailer. I dont really know how much it weighs, but the salesman tolds us that our 1500 truck could pull it with 4 quads with no problem. We were specifically looking for a trailer that is light enough to be pulled with the F150 and can fit up to 4 quads. I think the trailers did have brakes because i saw capilers. the load was about 1400lbs. and thanks for the tongue advice. So, all i need to do is get the right tongue that is between 10 to 15% of the total trailer wieght with loads on it, brakes on the trailer and ill be ok?
 
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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They also sell anti-sway kits ( i tihnk thats what they're called) that consist of a special hitch and two bars that will hook to your trail. It helps to distribute the load and stop the trailer from swaying. A lot of people use them on their toyboxes, but if you're concerned you could use them on an open application as well.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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Even if the trailer has brakes, you still need a brake controller in the truck, and a 7pin connector. If you were running a 4pin, then the trailer probably wasn't helping you stop. The F150 should be plenty to pull that trailer and load, I would be surprised to hear your total weight was over 3500lbs. Of course the engine and gearing combo will have a lot to do with how easy the tow goes also.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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So, all i need to do is get the right tongue that is between 10 to 15% of the total trailer wieght with loads on it,
its not a matter of getting the right tongue for the trailer (i may have misunderstood you) its a matter of loading the trailer so that the downward pressure on the hitch ball (tongue weight) is 10-15% of the total trailer weight ,,,,and the rest is on the axle.

10x20 trailer,,,,,i can't say i've ever heard of a 10' wide trailer unless it had a "WIDE LOAD" sign on it,,,,are you sure of the size

if the trailer has brakes, you should see a set of drums just behind the wheels

i dought you would see calipers,,,just drums
 
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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Well, this last post did remind me of another very important factor. (The whole proper toungue thing) Is this truck jacked up? If it is, you need to get an offset reese hitch to keep the trailer level. I'm guessing your probably having more of an issue with proper loading. One more thing that quite often gets overlooked is proper tires and proper tire inflation.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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when you say jacked up, do you mean jacked up like the way my freinds V 700 was when i flipped it? If you mean the other jacked up like lifted up, then no, it is not jacked up.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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I always load the heaviest bike in front, then work my way back with the next lighter, then the next, etc., with the lightest in the rear. That keeps the weight heavier on the hitch.

I made the mistake once of loading my bikes in front (Honda 400EX and Suzuki Z400), then putting my buddies huge Polaris on the back. I figured the two 400's together weighed about the same as the 700+ pound Polaris, so I was ok. No way! The trailer fishtailed like a trout. We had to stop on the road, and reload the whole trailer, with the lard a$$ Polaris repositioned at the front.
 
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