400ex big bore kit
#1
Hey, I have a 2000 Honda 400ex with an Fmf Megamaxx II Pipe, and a K & N airfilter. I consider it to be fast, but when my friend (on a modded banshee) and I drag race, well it really isn't much contest, he eats me alive. Anyway, my quesiton is should i buy the big bore kit for some extra power. I have been told by many that it alone does great things, but when i called the dealer, he said that a big bore kit alone only increases 1/2 of a hp. He also said if I went to a different size cam, it would make that biggest difference. He said that if I bought the big bore kit and a different cam, i could maybe squeeze out 35 ponies. But I have aa couple of questions to you:
What is a cam? (I really dont know!)
Do you think the dealer is just trying to rip me off with the cam?
Do any of you have a 440ex or know someone who does and could give me some info cause im really considering it?
Would it be worth $400 for the extra horsepower?
Thanks alot guys, help!
What is a cam? (I really dont know!)
Do you think the dealer is just trying to rip me off with the cam?
Do any of you have a 440ex or know someone who does and could give me some info cause im really considering it?
Would it be worth $400 for the extra horsepower?
Thanks alot guys, help!
#3
Cams are what open your valves. The cam has lobes that dictate valve lift and duration. HP can be gained by changing your stock cam for a race cam and will cost you $150-$200.
I'm installing a IMS 440, web race cam, port job, K&N, rev box, WB R-4 slip-on, and hardened rockers on my '99 400EX. I figured that I should see a 10-12 hp gain from these mods.
I'm installing a IMS 440, web race cam, port job, K&N, rev box, WB R-4 slip-on, and hardened rockers on my '99 400EX. I figured that I should see a 10-12 hp gain from these mods.
#4
ldj, why would you say only bore it to a 416 or 1 426 instead of a 440.
also, if I have a fmf pipe, k and n filter, white brothers revkit, bored (?) over and the race cams, would that be extremely fast for a 400ex?
and if i would go ahead and add the cam and kit, would that make my engion alot more tempremental?
thanks
also, if I have a fmf pipe, k and n filter, white brothers revkit, bored (?) over and the race cams, would that be extremely fast for a 400ex?
and if i would go ahead and add the cam and kit, would that make my engion alot more tempremental?
thanks
#5
The reason I told you to get a 416 or a 426, is that the 440 does not rev as quick as either of those kits, and in a straight out drag those other kits would do better than the 440 because they make your 400 rev like a two stroke. If I were you I would get your sleeve bored 2mm over to make it a 416, then get a 10:8:1 JE piston, get any drop in cam and if you have the money port it, you will love the power. Before I put in my 426 piston, I had a 10:5:1 piston and web cam, it felt like a new bike, I could beat a lot of bikes, you don't need a race cam, then you would need new valve springs and that's not worth the money.
#7
On the dyno, I think the 440 would put out the most horsepower, but the quickest would be the 426 or the 416, I think the 426 might be quicker than the 416.
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#8
I agree with LDJ, I would go with the 416 or 426 kit. I would try to get a piston with around 11:1 compression, don't get a Wiseco piston though, they aren't that good. A 440 piston will give the bike more torque for like hillclimbing, and the 416 or 426 will be a revver. you have to get a cam though if you want to even come close to that Banshee. It will allow the bike to "pull" harder in the midrange and top-end without running out of power. i would get a Web-Cam 450-451 grind for the 400EX, because you don't need heavy-duty valve springs or hard-faced rockers. I put in the stock sized piston in mine with 11.25:1 compression and the web-cam along with my other goodies, and i can beat a piped Banshee from start to finish. This is the truth, even though the guys in the Yamadog forum think there is no way i would be able to touch a piped Banshee.


