Honda to stop producing 2-stroke bikes
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The EPA is focused on eliminating all two-stroke engines in ATV's, motorcycles, snowmobiles, out-boards and lawn equipment due to their high emissions. According to the last article I read, the EPA feels that two-stroke engines cannot be designed to produce emissions that are low enough to meet their standards.
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I have to agree. Don't get me wrong, i think it's great that 2 strokes can make such power so easily but at some point in the future they will be a thing of the past.
Sure there will still be die hards around who will keep old banshee's, 250r's, and maybe a few other 2 strokers running but no new ones will be made because at some point 4 strokes will make the same amount of power as technology advances.
It's kinda like when the auto makers went to fuel injection. All of the hot rodders said it was the end of performance cars and the end of people modifying their cars. Well they were wrong, these days there are Ford Mustangs which have been put into the deep 9's (in the quarter mile) with the basic stock Fuel injection setup....no carbs needed. With an aftermarket fuel injection setup many of those cars are well into the low 7's (in the quarter mile) at over 190mph.
Eventually it will happen. Does it suck? Yes, but hopefully by that time we will have much more powerful 4 strokes with the same output as a 2 stroke with the same displacement.
Mike
Sure there will still be die hards around who will keep old banshee's, 250r's, and maybe a few other 2 strokers running but no new ones will be made because at some point 4 strokes will make the same amount of power as technology advances.
It's kinda like when the auto makers went to fuel injection. All of the hot rodders said it was the end of performance cars and the end of people modifying their cars. Well they were wrong, these days there are Ford Mustangs which have been put into the deep 9's (in the quarter mile) with the basic stock Fuel injection setup....no carbs needed. With an aftermarket fuel injection setup many of those cars are well into the low 7's (in the quarter mile) at over 190mph.
Eventually it will happen. Does it suck? Yes, but hopefully by that time we will have much more powerful 4 strokes with the same output as a 2 stroke with the same displacement.
Mike
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Sorry I have to disagree with you guys.The 2stroke makes more power is lighter and costs less to produce and work on. From a munfacturing standpoint it would make more sense to use already existing technology and clean up the 2strokes already widely accepted by the consumer.The atv industry is a little different though, it has seen ALOT of discrimination and has been drastically tamed by lawsuits and conservitive lawyers, so the chance of a new 2stroke atv is slim, but in the motorcycle and snowmobile industries, the 2stroke will live.