2009 420 Rancher Power or Lack of?
Jul 21, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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The Rancher 420AT transmission is a totally unique gear-on-gear "dual-clutch" design, that can be left to shift itself or shifted manually if one wishes.
Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
Jul 21, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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Jul 21, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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The Rancher 420AT transmission is a totally unique gear-on-gear "dual-clutch" design, that can be left to shift itself or shifted manually if one wishes.
Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
Jul 21, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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I have no doubt.
Should of bought the 5 speed manual tranny,there true cog on cog, put a manual 420 in its low 1st gear and it should turns any tires or snap the axles tying. My manual with low range 350 Big bear would.
Honda's Auto trannies rely on fluids pressure and just can not be as efficient as the manuals to get power to the wheels in high load conditions.
Case in point, a 500 Foreman can pull harder then a 680 Rincon auto. The 500 Rubicon is the only auto that has a "Low range" option which should be on all Automatics.
Should of bought the 5 speed manual tranny,there true cog on cog, put a manual 420 in its low 1st gear and it should turns any tires or snap the axles tying. My manual with low range 350 Big bear would.
Honda's Auto trannies rely on fluids pressure and just can not be as efficient as the manuals to get power to the wheels in high load conditions.
Case in point, a 500 Foreman can pull harder then a 680 Rincon auto. The 500 Rubicon is the only auto that has a "Low range" option which should be on all Automatics.
I agree. I would never go larger than 25's on anything smaller than a 500
Jul 21, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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I don't mud bog at all I just wanted the 26's for the extra clearence and all I am trying to find out is if there may be something wrong with it. If this is all it will do and nothing is wrong with it then so be it I will be fine. And yes it is fast
Jul 26, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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The Rancher 420AT transmission is a totally unique gear-on-gear "dual-clutch" design, that can be left to shift itself or shifted manually if one wishes.
Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
And, yeah, stop trying to put 33 inch swampzillas on Ranchers.... geesh!
Jul 26, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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My old 1989 Yamaha 350 (348cc for real) Big Bear came with 25" stock and would churn through any thick mud swamp there is and a 2008 420cc Rancher is being asked to much to turn 26" tires?
I have seen a 96 Foreman 400 (395cc) turn 27" Vampires through some ugly stuff.
Here is a 5 speed 420 with 28" Mudzillas
I have seen a 96 Foreman 400 (395cc) turn 27" Vampires through some ugly stuff.
Here is a 5 speed 420 with 28" Mudzillas