2009 420 Rancher Power or Lack of?
#11
07-21-2009, 11:05 AM
Red Rider
Honda, accept nothing less!
Honda, accept nothing less!
The Rancher 420AT transmission is a totally unique gear-on-gear "dual-clutch" design, that can be left to shift itself or shifted manually if one wishes.
Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
#12
07-21-2009, 03:45 PM
#13
07-21-2009, 03:47 PM
The Rancher 420AT transmission is a totally unique gear-on-gear "dual-clutch" design, that can be left to shift itself or shifted manually if one wishes.
Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
#14
07-21-2009, 04:23 PM
Trailblazer
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Madison, IN
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have no doubt.
Should of bought the 5 speed manual tranny,there true cog on cog, put a manual 420 in its low 1st gear and it should turns any tires or snap the axles tying. My manual with low range 350 Big bear would.
Honda's Auto trannies rely on fluids pressure and just can not be as efficient as the manuals to get power to the wheels in high load conditions.
Case in point, a 500 Foreman can pull harder then a 680 Rincon auto. The 500 Rubicon is the only auto that has a "Low range" option which should be on all Automatics.
Should of bought the 5 speed manual tranny,there true cog on cog, put a manual 420 in its low 1st gear and it should turns any tires or snap the axles tying. My manual with low range 350 Big bear would.
Honda's Auto trannies rely on fluids pressure and just can not be as efficient as the manuals to get power to the wheels in high load conditions.
Case in point, a 500 Foreman can pull harder then a 680 Rincon auto. The 500 Rubicon is the only auto that has a "Low range" option which should be on all Automatics.
I agree. I would never go larger than 25's on anything smaller than a 500
#15
07-21-2009, 05:04 PM
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Citronelle Alabama
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#17
07-22-2009, 08:21 AM
#19
07-26-2009, 08:02 PM
The Rancher 420AT transmission is a totally unique gear-on-gear "dual-clutch" design, that can be left to shift itself or shifted manually if one wishes.
Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
Again, these are closer to being sport quads than utilities (except for the portly weight!), so not a great idea to turn them into clunkers with huge tires. And this engine is a bit oversquare, and likes to rev and be ridden fast more than it likes to grunt. Again, they went for more of a sport approach, rather than the work quad route.
And, yeah, stop trying to put 33 inch swampzillas on Ranchers.... geesh!
#20
07-26-2009, 11:18 PM
Extreme Pro Rider
God forbid he lets the polishing secret out!
God forbid he lets the polishing secret out!
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 11,807
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My old 1989 Yamaha 350 (348cc for real) Big Bear came with 25" stock and would churn through any thick mud swamp there is and a 2008 420cc Rancher is being asked to much to turn 26" tires?
I have seen a 96 Foreman 400 (395cc) turn 27" Vampires through some ugly stuff.
Here is a 5 speed 420 with 28" Mudzillas
I have seen a 96 Foreman 400 (395cc) turn 27" Vampires through some ugly stuff.
Here is a 5 speed 420 with 28" Mudzillas