What's the scoop on the new 420's with power steering?
Jan 27, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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Well, it's for my wife and daughter, so it has to be a smaller quad. I was actually thinking of putting Mud Lites on it, perhaps 25". They have been fabulous on our other smaller quads. Also, apparently if you just touch the RH brake, the front diff will be "fooled" into locking up, but Honda doesn't talk about this. Has anyone else heard this?
Jan 27, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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Next to excessive speed catching a rock or something on the side of the trail and having the steering ripped from your hands is the most common cause af accidents and serious injuries.
I have yet to talk to someone who owns an ATV with PS that would ever buy another one without it.
The macho man attitude about not needing PS just doesn't cut it. It was the same way when they started putting PS in vehicles and I remember when some folks thought PS, PB an an auto trans in a truck was a joke.
Feb 3, 2011 | 08:21 AM
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OK, what about the tires? I have seen some criticism that they are wimpy, but it is difficult to get, say, a Mud Lite (excellent tire!) in the wierd Honda Rim sizes (fronts are 24 X 8-12 but rears are is 24 X 10-11), and to go up to a 25" tire would invalidate the warranty and also perhaps screw up all the electronics and stuff.
So who likes the tires and who doesn't?
So who likes the tires and who doesn't?
Feb 3, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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Stock tires on most ATV's are pretty light weight, but I think are a better general use tire than most people give them credit for.
If it were me, I'd probably run the stockers until worn, then put 12" rims on and say Bighorns, Terra crosses, or maybe mudlight radials.
I wouldn't go too huge, though, as nimble handling is the Rancher's big strong point. If you want something to swamp with 27-29" tires there are better choices.
If it were me, I'd probably run the stockers until worn, then put 12" rims on and say Bighorns, Terra crosses, or maybe mudlight radials.
I wouldn't go too huge, though, as nimble handling is the Rancher's big strong point. If you want something to swamp with 27-29" tires there are better choices.
Feb 3, 2011 | 09:34 AM
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Stock tires on most ATV's are pretty light weight, but I think are a better general use tire than most people give them credit for.
If it were me, I'd probably run the stockers until worn, then put 12" rims on and say Bighorns, Terra crosses, or maybe mudlight radials.
I wouldn't go too huge, though, as nimble handling is the Rancher's big strong point. If you want something to swamp with 27-29" tires there are better choices.
If it were me, I'd probably run the stockers until worn, then put 12" rims on and say Bighorns, Terra crosses, or maybe mudlight radials.
I wouldn't go too huge, though, as nimble handling is the Rancher's big strong point. If you want something to swamp with 27-29" tires there are better choices.
Feb 3, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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Stock tires on most ATV's are pretty light weight, but I think are a better general use tire than most people give them credit for.
If it were me, I'd probably run the stockers until worn, then put 12" rims on and say Bighorns, Terra crosses, or maybe mudlight radials.
I wouldn't go too huge, though, as nimble handling is the Rancher's big strong point. If you want something to swamp with 27-29" tires there are better choices.
If it were me, I'd probably run the stockers until worn, then put 12" rims on and say Bighorns, Terra crosses, or maybe mudlight radials.
I wouldn't go too huge, though, as nimble handling is the Rancher's big strong point. If you want something to swamp with 27-29" tires there are better choices.
Personally I'd look at the Carlisle 489s for your Rancher. I had Big Horns and won't buy them again.
Feb 3, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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I saw an ad for one with a track kit - put that and a plow on, and life would be a lot easier with power steering. Also, we have some light riders (one is only 100 lbs.), but even so, everyone who has power steering seems to love it, so I expect it will be on everyone's wish list soon. (Actually, our first priority was a smallish quad with EFI, and the power steering on the Honda is a bonus.)
Anymore I'm a recreational trail rider, and a large person with no medical problems, so for me power steering would mainly prevent the massive kickback when I smack a rock hidden in the grass at the side of the trail.
In the past when I did farm work, though, I'd often be steering with one hand because I'm using a wand sprayer or whatever. Also we would often run out over crops planted in mounds, like potato rows, to service wheel movers or whatever. The raised ridges and troughs don't match the widths of the wheels...
I've also found running a plow makes steering really tough. There's a lot of weight on the front tires when the blade is lifted, and you often want to turn the tires from one lock to the other while stopped on pavement.
I'm glad they made power steering optional, so you can choose to have it if you want.
In the past when I did farm work, though, I'd often be steering with one hand because I'm using a wand sprayer or whatever. Also we would often run out over crops planted in mounds, like potato rows, to service wheel movers or whatever. The raised ridges and troughs don't match the widths of the wheels...
I've also found running a plow makes steering really tough. There's a lot of weight on the front tires when the blade is lifted, and you often want to turn the tires from one lock to the other while stopped on pavement.
I'm glad they made power steering optional, so you can choose to have it if you want.
Well I guess you really can learn something new every day. lol
Feb 3, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Next to excessive speed catching a rock or something on the side of the trail and having the steering ripped from your hands is the most common cause af accidents and serious injuries.
Not that PS is bad but around here its a $1000 option. That money could be spent on nices tires and rims with a winch. Or a ATV upgrade. A 500KQ with PS cost as much or more as a 750KQ without PS.
Yes change the Rancher 420 small 24" tires and year they make many 25" tires for the Rancher rims if you shop around online.
Even the smaller 360 Prairie ,350 Bruin/Grizzly,and old 350 Foremans have 25" tires from stock. Whats a 420cc 4x4 doing with 24" tires?
I even put 25" tires on my 2wd 250 Moto4.
Feb 3, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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I would buy that rancher and ride the hell out of it... Those 24inch tires probably handle awesome.. I mean are you and your wife going mud running or climbing up some badly maintained trails??
Every ATv i have ever owned i rode the stockers till they basically went flat... sure it was nice to have new tires just for the reliability of a thicker tire..
Like someone else said don't go big on your tires unless you don't mind your quad handling like crap.
Every ATv i have ever owned i rode the stockers till they basically went flat... sure it was nice to have new tires just for the reliability of a thicker tire..
Like someone else said don't go big on your tires unless you don't mind your quad handling like crap.
Feb 3, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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I would buy that rancher and ride the hell out of it... Those 24inch tires probably handle awesome.. I mean are you and your wife going mud running or climbing up some badly maintained trails??
Every ATv i have ever owned i rode the stockers till they basically went flat... sure it was nice to have new tires just for the reliability of a thicker tire..
Like someone else said don't go big on your tires unless you don't mind your quad handling like crap.
Every ATv i have ever owned i rode the stockers till they basically went flat... sure it was nice to have new tires just for the reliability of a thicker tire..
Like someone else said don't go big on your tires unless you don't mind your quad handling like crap.
Even 25" are to small to be a great choice mud tire.
But your right I would run those 24" bald before changing them.