I believe the transmission and engine have a common sump, both run on the motor oil. The Rincon has both a Radiator, which I'm sure you already knew, and an oil cooler.

 

Thanks Ostie!
-MT

 

willoe22, I would have to think the new auto trans in the Rincon has a little higher manufacturing cost than a CVT style trans. Alot of light weight aluminum is used in the suspension and when you look close at a Honda there are alot of items that are just higher quality than alot of other manufactures. The quality of the levers for the park brake vs what Yamaha uses, not that there is anything wrong whith Yamahas, just you can see the quality difference. Quality is a little more money. Just something as simple as the thin palstic used on the Prairie, not that it is a problem, it just costs more for higher quality. The ATV of everyones dream would probably cost 10 to $12,000. Thats more than I spent on both my ATV's combined. The more items you add, the more you need to subtract. Just my 2-cents worth.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

To all of those who say that you don't NEED disc brakes on a utility quad because you're not going as fast as you would be on a sport quad, I say this:

A Dodge Viper is equipped with disc brakes all the way around. It's practically required, just because it's a sports car. It would be stupid to drop an 8L V10 into a car and then put drum brakes all the way around. Same thing with the Raptor, or other sport quads. Big engine, big brakes, it makes sense.
Think about this. Take a look at big SUVs. Our old Jeep had 4 wheel discs, as does our new Durango. The four Real Big SUVs that Car & Driver tested in this past issue (Tahoe LT, Expedition XLT, Yukon XL SLT, and Sequoia Limited) have 4 wheel discs. Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE HEAVY! You wouldn't stick drum brakes on them because you'd NEVER STOP! It already takes a great amount of time to stop them as it is due to their massive weights, so why not make them as capable in stopping as you possibly can?
Same thing with big ATVs. If I'm driving around a 4-wheeler that weighs 800+ lbs. with gear, accessories and a rider (almost twice that of a sport quad), and a deer jumps out in front of me as I'm going 45mph down a trail, I DON'T WANT TO HIT IT! You put drum brakes on a machine of that size, and you're probably gonna hit that deer.

I consider it a safety feature more than performance issue. I was damn close to that deer when he jumped out in front of me, but I stopped before I hit him, that's for sure. I trust the discs on my Xplorer as I'd trust the discs on any other ATV with them, but not drums.

Also, what squeaking are you guys complaining about? I use the brakes quite often, and I've yet to hear any squeaking noises.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the rear brake on all Polaris machines has it's own cylinder, completely separate from the rest of the braking system. I'm not trying to say that Polaris is superior to all other brands, this just happens to be what I know... so it's not like one leak will drain the whole system.

Finally, willow, I don't get how you can say that. Honda DOES expect people to pay more cash for less ATV, or else they wouldn't have set the MSRP that high. I would really like to know just how much money they're making off from every Rincon that they sell... I'm willing to bet that it's quite a bit.

 

Campy,
Do you really think it makes sense to compare an ATV with a car. A dodge viper does what? 150 mph. A Raptor is in the upper 70's. The viper weights probably 10 times more than a average sport quad. Drums don't stop big heavy things? How about those semi's flying down the hi-way at 80 mph, they have no problem smoking those tires when they stomp on the brakes.

Have you ever hit your brakes hard after pulling out of a car wash? I'm not sure what your vehicle does but my wife's maxima rolls more than I'd like until they dry off. I've got a feeling if you had just run through some water and that deer jumped out, the drums probably would have out performed the disc. Don't get me wrong I think disc brakes are better in certain applications, but then again I think drums have their place too.

 

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Now, I'm no genious, but how can this be? It goes slow and rides smooth? My TrailBoss does that. Let's face the fact here people, Honda missed the boat. I mean if the thing was faster and better accelerating than a Prairie 650, you would all be bragging about that, but, since it is slow, you all say well, but, it's still a Honda. You spend your $7,500 on it. The less partial crowd will buy something else. Have a nice day.

 

You know a ZR1Corvette problably rides a little better but is probaly not as fast as say a new Viper can't imagine any body wanting one of those vette's can you. Think I'll wait for another reveiw or so before condeming the Rincon.It may be what a lot of people are looking for in an ATV

 

Hey 2000MOJAVE, At this point, since the machine isn't out yet, no one really knows what it can and can't do yet. It's all speculation at this point.

 

My dad is better than your dad.

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Unless I missed something the Rincon will be the only quad that has a 650 engine, IRS and still weighs 600lbs. All of the other open class 4 x 4's with IRS weigh more like 700. Why wouldn't we think that with all that ground clearance, IRS, low weight and a 650 auto that it wouldn't go where no quad has gone before even if it isn't the fastest it may be the best in mud and technical climbing? Just a theory, could be wrong.