I think Honda by far has the best 2003 lineup. I mean the upcoming Rincon has created a whole new class man!!! It must be one heck of a machine to already not even be compared with the other 650c.c. plus 4X4's. LOL!

 

HAHAHAHA. good laugh!

 

kciH- i agree, Yamaha make the best MX four stroke the 250F is awesome, so awesome that i think it shouldn't be in the 125 class, but they put the size limit for 4-stroke up in the 125 class to promote the developement of 4-strokes. the 426 beat the 450F, but when you see them going out on the track they're sooo close that whoever wins is simply the better rider (90% rider 10% machine). they'll never up date the banshee, it's a 2-stroke, and all of the development these days is going into 4-stroke. within 5-10 years they will stop making 2-strokes all together, at least the MX bikes (it's what has been predictated) when was the last all new 2-stroke released?? early 90's. if you say that the 450F isn't new, than suzuki only has the new Z-400, cause the EIGER and the VINSON came out in '02, we're talking '03 here bud. lol so that aint all that impressive.

 

What do you mean there haven't been any "all-new" two stroke MX bikes???? Yamaha has had 2 since 1998. Suzuki has had 2 since 1997. Honda has a COMPLETELY new CR250 for 2003 that even includes a GenIV aluminum frame. Kawasaki just built the 2nd all new 250 in the last few years for 2003 also, and Suzuki has no hand on the KX lineup.

The new emission laws that go into effect for 2006 do not apply to "Competition Use Only" vehicles.

Honda actually has the most impressive overall lineup. They still have a gap in the sport segment until they produce something larger than the 300EX that has reverse.....But, they still outsell #2 Yamaha. The Raptors appearance two years ago did not affect the overall numbers.

From a sport category only perspective, Yamaha has the better lineup simply because they offer a wide range of choices.

From a high performance only perspective, I don't see where anyone else is even remotely close to the Cannondale lineup. They have a basic level quad, a basic level with race suspension quad, a woods quad, a dune quad, and a motocross quad.

 

The last impressive quad honda come out with was in 1986. I am talking about sport quads here, I know they make some of the most reliable utilities there are. You can all flame on, but this is only my opinion. The 400EX wasn't exactly a big improvement, if not a step backwards. Don't get all pissy, we all know the 400ex is a great machine. It was a dissapointment to me, because I was around when the 250R's where new.

 

sorry ...Yes i was asking who got the most improved lineup for 2003.

 

Yeah, Suzuki really stepped it up this year.

 

<< For sport ATVs they have a broader range of choices than any other manufacturer as well, with the Blaster, Warrior, and Raptor covering the four strokes, >>



the blaster is a 2 stroke, as for every thing eles you said i think your right.

 

I would say Suzuki, they have the new Z400 and the Vinson manual shift, although bringing back the 160 with only a front rack removal was lame. A close second would be Yamaha with their updated Blaster and the new Kodiak 450.

 

<< What do you mean there haven't been any &quot;all-new&quot; two stroke MX bikes???? Yamaha has had 2 since 1998 >>



Yeah and those were the two 4-strokes, 250F and 400/426F



<< Honda has a COMPLETELY new CR250 for 2003 that even includes a GenIV aluminum frame. Kawasaki just built the 2nd all new 250 in the last few years for 2003 also, and Suzuki has no hand on the KX lineup. >>



that GenIV frame is used on the 450 too. As for Suzuki having no hand on the KX lineup, you're right. the other way around with the RM60,65,85, and 100. I know that they're currently improving 2-strokes, but you won't see any on the trail, and I'm not sure but the outdoors tracks might have to follow the emissions law too.

I don't approve of these laws anyways, one guy said on another forum that ONE city transport bus puts out as much polution as 100 screaming banshee's. think about that tree huggers