I know a guy who knows a guy who has a 250r, that guy wants to trade the 250r for my warrior so he has something his girlfriend can ride with him on his 400ex.

The 250r is an 86 with an 89 motor, the entire motor was just rebuilt but holed the piston withen 2 hours riding (piston has small hole in it from being lean - either bbase gasket, lean jetting or main seals) The quad has a new fmf pipe on it and the clutch feels good. Fairly good plastic with a crack or 2. The front tires are flat and the rear are the kind with a million knobbies on em. the rear bearings and swingarm bearings feel tight, the back brakes work fine. The frame on the 250r doesnt look straight the subframe is lower about 1/2" on one side and the front appears tweaked to the right but I cant tell too much other than the left shock tower appears set further back about 1/2"(when looking from the front) Its missing a kicker, front motormount, chain/front sprocket and coil. The left front caliper hangs and doesnt release fully. The front wheel bearings are shot as well as the a arm bushings. The 250r has no title and will come with bill of sale only. it still has the vin on the frame.

The warrior is a 94 and needs a rear shock (bent) and is in "fair-fair" shape, I estimate its value at about $1500-2000. The front a arm bushings are worn, it has new stock front shocks, half used front bandits on .190's. 12:1 piston with BIG cam, titanium valve springs - k&n. It has a WB megalloy pipe that has been welded and fixed a few times. I just got a carb and battery out of a 2001 at Eastcoastatv for it. It runs real good but hasnt been used in a about a year.. it need nothing other than the rear shock to be ridden a few rides, but will need rear brakes.. the axle is slightly bent only enough to see when you watch the wheel on pavement. The warrior has clear title and is registered (which is required in PA where I ride) it will be a total pain in the **** to get the R registered without a title.

I dont have the money for a restoration project on either at this time since I am working on my raptor tranny. would you trade?

 

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shoulds like an equal trade. 86 isnt the perferable year for a 250r but if you arnt picky then it will work. It sounds like you need to base this decision on weither or not you want a 250r or a warrior. Keep in mind you may have to do alot of work to the 250r in the first year or 2 that you ride it.

 

man if you can get an R out of a WARRIOR its definately a awesome trade. You really can't find used 250R's under 3000

 

I'm looking for an old R to restore. Should I stay away from the 86 model? What are the differences in the 86 and 89? Thanks.

 

You think its an equal trade even though the frame on the R is bent and motor is blown? Im supposed to get back with the guy tonight about it.

 

If you want something to ride then keep the Warrior. If you want a project that you can spend alot of money on then get the 250r.

From the descriptions of both quads they are beat. At least the Warrior is still running and the frame is OK. If you don't have alot of money like you said, then I can't see the project getting very far if you trade. When you go to find a used frame, are you going to have the money?

Check out the classifieds for used parts and see if they fit your budget...otherwise you may be looking at a 250r project sitting in the garage while your buddy and his girl are out riding!

If both quads were in same running condition then I would trade for the R. One is rideable and one is not...do you want to ride a Warrior or tell everyone you have a 250R? I'm not putting anything down, only you will know if the project is doable or not. Just don't get screwed!

 

The R sounds like it will need a lot of attention, but in my opinion it sounds like a fair trade if you are fairly good at turning wrenches. It's kinda like trading a good running Nova in for a beat up Corvette. The Corvette may be rough, but ooooh, the potential is awesome. About the years- yes, 88's and '89's are the better years. However, the only difference that is noticeable is the swingarm length. The other differences in the chassis involve weight and strength difference. As far as the motor goes, well you mentioned it allready has the '89 motor so there you go. And for you jbomb, any year 250R is superior to all other quads if it is built correctly. I garruntee that my '87 will out handle stock '88's and '89's solely because of what I did to the swingarm. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]it's an ancient chinese secret

 

Actually some people prefer the 86'. The 86 was slightly heavier than the 88-89 due to additional welds in the frame (stronger) and a steel swing arm, which is again heavier than the aluminum one found on the 88-89, but the aluminum swingarms are must more likely to crack.

The 86 also has no bridge on the exhaust port but gives it a little more power. Some say the bridge found on the 87-89 models make them more reliable but I haven't have rebuilt my 86' in the 3 years I've own it.

The 86' has a short crank shaft, 87-89 have a long shaft. Again, some say the short shaft revs quicker but the difference is almost insignificant.

The 86-87 models have a 1 inch longer swingarm but the a-arms are also 1 inch farther back. This again is subjective. This make 86-87 less likeless to wheelie and a little better on hillclimbs and draging due to the forward weight distribution. The 88-89 swing arm a-arm combination makes for a better MX or TT type racing but again the differences are almost non-exsistant.

The 88 had a better clutch lifter mechanism, but you could buy the update kit for $60 and update any year TRX.

The reason why the 88-89 250rs are the most sought after is that they were the last ones made.

 

Excellent post trx250Rob. It seems like the 88's and 89's get all of the attention for no real reason. People are just uninformed and you get a lot of people on these forums that don't know what they are talking about and make it sound like the 86's and 87's aren't worth owning. When I was stationed out in Las Vegas more people wanted the 86's due to the extra strength needed for the desert terrain. And if you are setting the bike up for MX then you will eventually replace the A-arms and swing arm anyway.