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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 02:05 AM
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Part II of above;


Now the question of legally "hit" deer that get over onto prohibited property. I have on occasion acted as a go between between hunter and landowner but seldom do that anymore. There are a host of reasons not to, such as persons wanting me to help them when their stand placement was right on the line, hunting stands with nothing but open fields on the property the hunter has permission to access, stands placed on properties too small to allow a reasonable chance to recover a wounded deer prior to it getting off the property, hunters getting into disputes with landowners prior to calling, shooting at deer at the last possible light, calling from the bar after a couple of hours of drinking,telling me that I HAVE to go get the deer because I did it for Joe Blow back in 1987, pushing wounded animals to quick or hard, on and on. I really found that most of the time, the landowner who had refused entry and the hunters usually had history and the hunters never told me that part of the story. I always had to get that part from the landowner when I called him up. Throw in the fact that the hunters almost always said the same old line---- that they did not want the deer to suffer or that they didn't want the animal to go to waste so they needed my help. Funny thing was, in 25+ years I never gotten one single call from a hunter needing my help to retrieve a doe- every single one was a buck. I guess that does dont suffer or can't go to "waste".

That said, I will still make an effort with some landowners and some circumstances as i think most CPOs will but it is on a case by case basis.

If a landowner (or other party) finds a deer dead it may be legally claimed. They must notify a CPO PRIOR to moving or doing anything with the animal. In order for the deer to be claimed there must be no evidence that the deer had been taken illegaly. There is no charge for the found tag, there is however a charge for moving the animal prior to authorization called illegal possession of deer.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 02:07 AM
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That was posted by a Sgt. Sanders who looked to be a Sgt. with the Illinois DNR.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by: rescuediver
There are a host of reasons not to, such as persons wanting me to help them when their stand placement was right on the line, hunting stands with nothing but open fields on the property the hunter has permission to access, stands placed on properties too small to allow a reasonable chance to recover a wounded deer prior to it getting off the property,.
At one time we had trouble with some out of state hunters who had permission to hunt on a very small parcel of land next to a section of our land. They even had the audacity to not only place their blind within a foot or two of the property line but to point the only opening of their blind towards our land. From the point which they had their blind set up they couldn't see 10 yards onto the property they were supposedly hunting. They didn't even have a window on that side of the blind. They did have a fine view of 40 plus acres of our land. This obviously annoyed us to no end. We discussed the situation with the local game warden and he stated he really couldn't do anything unless they shot an animal on our property. Well, one late afternoon my cousin was hunting back in those 40 acres and he saw a huge 12 point out in that field. About the time he got his sights settled on the deer a shot rang out and the deer dropped dead. Cousin was not pleased. He steps out into the field and sees three guys from the blind on neighboring land on a dead run to claim their deer. Cousin steps out and puts a round into the deer. They stopped in their tracks and had a discussion on what to do next. Meanwhile cousin (who was only 100 yards away from the deer compared to their 300) made it to the deer and started gutting it. Of course the other guys came over and claimed that they had shot it and it had ran over and dropped dead but that was obviously not the case as the deer had two broken shoulders and his heart had been hit. Anyway, to make a long story short the warden was called in to mediate and he read the riot act to the out of staters. This was evidently the biggest deer any of them had ever seen or shot at and they were incredibly upset about it. The one most upset was the young hunter who had apparently shot it who was sobbing like a little girl with a skinned knee. It was HIS deer dangit and he wanted it! This annoyed the warden even more since the kid was being taught to shoot game on other people's property and then lie to the game warden about it. They were evidently still arguing with the game warden when cousin loaded up the deer in his truck and headed to the house. They quit showing up a year or two after that thank goodness. Game warden later told cousin that the dad had actually told him he had friends in state government and he would have his job unless he went and got that deer for his boy. Amused the game warden something fierce I guess.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 04:39 AM
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I hate people that throw crap like that in your face[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] Gave me another reason to did deeper. I've been called on the carpet many times[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] But, still continued doing my JOB[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
 
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