OK, only ~60 miles on it so far. It's leaking coolant out the filler cap and it's running down onto the floorboard. I tried to tighten it, but it never really feels tight; kinda hard to explain.

This thing stalls. I was going up a fairly steep hill, not very fast, and it stalled on me when it was digging in, just when I was starting to make it. It was hairy. It's also done it when I slow to a stop. Did this about 4 times on the same hill. It also stalls when coming to a stop. It's stalled about 8-10 times now.

It's seems that it's getting harder and harder to steer; like it's in 4X4, but it is definitely not.

Backfires, LOUD, when letting off throttle.

On the bright side, I found I'm able to wheelie from a dead stop. It also jumps great, better than the Grizz.

I know these may 'work themselves out' since it's not broke in yet, but it's still frustrating.

 

they will overheat and do that . you gatta really put around on them for a long while before its truly broke in . .What is your front tire psi . if its low it is harder to steer . try riding around from 10 to 30 mph for about 15 mins and let it cool . repeat several times let the fan kick on and ride for about 5 more mins then shut it off for about 15 mins then do it again . give it about 10 hours of this and you will be good to go .02 650warn 2500napa#7335epi black springk&n filternyroc exhaust mod

 

3TV, it will fit.

The filler cap and the floorboard? You must be talking about the overflow tank then? The radiator filler is in front under the pop off cover. Did they overfill the overflow tank? Check the radiator and make sure it is full while you are at it. The overflow cap doesn't get very tight. It slips if overtightened like a milk jug does.

It sounds to me like the pilot screws (idle richness) are off (too rich). You can adjust them yourself simple enough. Stock setting is 2 1/4 turns out.

Kawi does recommend 10 hours break in. Although, I put 2 hours of varied throttle on mine before pegging it and drag racing it. I think 2 hours is enough. My Optimax boat engine took an hour of mandatory break in before letting it rip (they log rpm in the onboard computer). If an hour is good enough for an engine like that then 2 hours is plenty good for my ATV.

The hard steering could be as simple as air pressure, as mentioned. Or it could be a failing CV joint, diff. issue, or steering stem problem.

You might want to just take it back to the dealer and have them look it all over.

 

Hi again, 3TV.
Unfortunately I'm on a 3-5 year plan with these things so I better try and make 'em last. I'm not smart/wealthy enough to out wit these engineers.
Any luck with you Rincon? I still need to make it down to Coal Creek road and pick me up some new tires for the 660 and 700. BTW, your 'old' Grizz was sold I believe.

Yes, it is the overflow, not the actual radiator.

Yes, my plan is to add air, not take away fuel. I'm pretty new to this Kawie thing so bear with me.

DWB- so since the cap is like that, is it normal for it to be leaking? The fan never came on, and it's right to the full mark. Maybe missing an o-ring or something in the cap? Oh, did I see you on TV last night[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]. Looked like fun.

The 700 has alot more throttle reponse off the get go than my Grizz, but it feels like the Grizz has more mid/top power.

 

since the cap is like that, is it normal for it to be leaking?

No. I've never seen one get full enough to overflow though either; without the engine actually overheating that is.

Maybe missing an o-ring or something in the cap?

Could be. Mine has a rubber washer inside the cap if I remember right.

Oh, did I see you on TV last night. Looked like fun.

Ha! You did? Yes, it was a blast. Fisher's did a great job on our show. My wife is so proud [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img] LOL

The 700 has alot more throttle reponse off the get go than my Grizz, but it feels like the Grizz has more mid/top power.

My P700 pulls hard up till the mid 50mph range; then it falls flat because it was engineered to do so. The Grizzly may have it's restrictions handled different. I'll have take a spin on one the next time I get near a Grizz. Your elevation may be killing you also, as mentioned.

Try pulling off the stock snorkle and run it without. That might give you an idea if the DG snorkle or NAPA hose would help without rejetting.

There are a few other mods you can do as well.

 

I gotta tell Ya,
I am a mechanic but with a new machine......I would be taking her in big time with a full report except for the wheelies and break in time. Before I would touch anything I would get that documented and let the dealer experience it for him self.
You could have loose carb boots, bad valve setup, screwed up choke setup, who knows what else. I would be very upset if my brand new machine was doing that.
As for break in times. You gotta be careful there and patient. I am a machinist and have allot of respect for that. You are doing more than just seating in rings. I will admit 10 hrs does seem long but I'm not going to go head to head with the very experienced Kawasaki engine group.
It's your money.

 

My 650 said under the seat to set the air screw's at 2 1/4 turn's out, my 700 Pra. say's 1 1/2 turn's out, I looked under the V- force and it said 1 1/2 turns out....Why so much leaner than the old 650's, my 700 does not "lean" pop through the carbs at 1 1/2 turn's out but I have them at 2 turn's during break-in, mine backfires out the exhaust also when I let off at hard throttle, run's pretty good otherwise........

 

Thanks for all the replies!
I don't think it was leaking from overheating. Maybe since it was at quite the angle for 10 minutes or so while I was attempting to crawl up this hill. It stalls mostly after a load and then letting off throttle, if that makes sense. I'll take it in when I'm supposed to.

3TV, I know Diesels are ready to pull right off the get go, but I think gassers are different (I may be wrong though). I know the manual for my CTD says there is no required break in period, just to tow under 50MPH for other drivetrain components. I will head down there and grab me a set of ATRs, hopefully soon.

 

A diesel duramax and a 4stroke atv gasoline engine are not the same thing. Break it in according to the manual. They write the recommendations in there for a reason. While your piston rings may seat in the first 15-20 minutes of operation, your diffs and other parts of the engine do not. Be nice to it and it will be nice to you. I've had plenty of idiot friends who said 'break it in how you want to ride it' and watched their engines blow up twice in the same time while I've been on my original one.. As said above, idiots always think they can outsmart the ENGINEERS that design the engines...

I would also take the bike in immediately for adjustment and documentation of the problem. New or not, it shouldn't stall, backfire, etc PERIOD, not even once. Something's up, thats for sure. It wouldn't surprise me if your carb settings are off. My friend Gary just got a p650, and I went to set his low speed screws to 2.5 turns out, and found one was COMPLETELY CLOSED from the factory, the other was at 2 turns....who knows what would have happened had he run like that for a while...and he was wondering why it sputtered and was hard to start........ the dealer PDI is garbage IMO, they just put the plastic on and send it on its way is my guess.... Good luck.

 

I love this break in myth stuff. I was a firm believer that you need to break in the quad per the manuals instructions. LOL....what a joke.

I don't know the technical things about breaking in the motor but something not letting the rings seat properly when you using half throttle. Anyway in the factorys each bike and maybe quad hits a dyno and they rev the **** out of each one. Yes they do, so there is no need to break in your quad. They have already done it for you. I am not a firm believer that no break in is required, well to a certain degree.

I wish I could find the link to the website where it gives all the facts about this no break in thing. Well I should say no break in is wrong, I think it explains that running it at WOT and cooling it off is critical but babying it half throttle is not doing your motor any good. These 4 strokes are nearly invincible so either way it will last 5+ years.