Oil Question for 650 Owners
#1
Oil Question for 650 Owners
What weight of oil does Kawasaki recommend for the 650? Arctic Cat recommends 10w-40, but I noticed other manufacturers use different weights. Since it is a Kawasaki engine in my AC, I figure Kawasaki knows best. I went ahead and bought Kawasaki motorcycle oil today in 10w40 weight.
Just curious as to what Prairie 650 owners are running.
Just curious as to what Prairie 650 owners are running.
#2
Oil Question for 650 Owners
5W-30, 10w40, 10W50 20w40, 20w50 are in the manual.
I think 10w40 is best for most people's climates. However, synthetic is best.
Mobil MX4T or Amsoil ATV oil I think are the best synthetics for the 650 engine. Mobile MX4T is fomulated for water cooled engines (mobil V-twin 20w50 and is formulated for air-cooled v-twins). I use mobil v-twin in my front diff.
Automotive synthetics have less phosphorus than motorcycle synthetics and aren't as good at protecting against cold start wear as motorcycle synthetics.
I think 10w40 is best for most people's climates. However, synthetic is best.
Mobil MX4T or Amsoil ATV oil I think are the best synthetics for the 650 engine. Mobile MX4T is fomulated for water cooled engines (mobil V-twin 20w50 and is formulated for air-cooled v-twins). I use mobil v-twin in my front diff.
Automotive synthetics have less phosphorus than motorcycle synthetics and aren't as good at protecting against cold start wear as motorcycle synthetics.
#3
Oil Question for 650 Owners
Originally posted by: nyroc
5W-30, 10w40, 10W50 20w40, 20w50 are in the manual.
I think 10w40 is best for most people's climates. However, synthetic is best.
Mobil MX4T or Amsoil ATV oil I think are the best synthetics for the 650 engine. Mobile MX4T is fomulated for water cooled engines (mobil V-twin 20w50 and is formulated for air-cooled v-twins). I use mobil v-twin in my front diff.
Automotive synthetics have less phosphorus than motorcycle synthetics and aren't as good at protecting against cold start wear as motorcycle synthetics.
5W-30, 10w40, 10W50 20w40, 20w50 are in the manual.
I think 10w40 is best for most people's climates. However, synthetic is best.
Mobil MX4T or Amsoil ATV oil I think are the best synthetics for the 650 engine. Mobile MX4T is fomulated for water cooled engines (mobil V-twin 20w50 and is formulated for air-cooled v-twins). I use mobil v-twin in my front diff.
Automotive synthetics have less phosphorus than motorcycle synthetics and aren't as good at protecting against cold start wear as motorcycle synthetics.
Thanks again for the input.
#4
#5
Oil Question for 650 Owners
Maybe he meant don't use it until broken-in. I'm not even sure you can't use it in new engines. Corvette's come brand new with Mobil 1, as do Porsches.
I just want to be sure that everything seats properly before I switch, but I can't imagine why you wouldn't use them. To me, the best benefits are that they keep their viscosity better, they don't break down as easily, and they can withstand higher temp. My 375 is air/oil cooled, so I like having the safety margin. Also, I like it in a liquid cooled engine for that same added safety margin if you were to lose coolant and overheat. I also like the faster flow during cold starts.
I just want to be sure that everything seats properly before I switch, but I can't imagine why you wouldn't use them. To me, the best benefits are that they keep their viscosity better, they don't break down as easily, and they can withstand higher temp. My 375 is air/oil cooled, so I like having the safety margin. Also, I like it in a liquid cooled engine for that same added safety margin if you were to lose coolant and overheat. I also like the faster flow during cold starts.
#6
Oil Question for 650 Owners
Don't use synthetic until you have broken it in. Synthetic will make is last longer do to better cold flow and less breakdown under heat. MX4T has extra phosphorus which sticks to parts while the quads sits long periods and helps prevent wear next time you start.
We are supposed to use a wet brake synthetic in our rear diff. I guess yours isn't the same as ours? 80w90 Hypoid woud probably gum it up, or burn up.
We are supposed to use engine oil in the front diff. I guess yours isn't the same as ours? 80w90 Hypoid would make it far too stiff.
We are supposed to use a wet brake synthetic in our rear diff. I guess yours isn't the same as ours? 80w90 Hypoid woud probably gum it up, or burn up.
We are supposed to use engine oil in the front diff. I guess yours isn't the same as ours? 80w90 Hypoid would make it far too stiff.
#7
Oil Question for 650 Owners
Danw
Thing is allmost every car nowaday's have completely roller engine's
Roller rocker's,roller lifter's,roller chain's no need to break them in really as they are completly roller and hydraulic. The only thing that really need's to break is is getting the ring's to seat but I'm pretty sure the Vette and Porsche both have moly ring's that do not need that much to seat.
Maybe that's what he said Nyroc I was too giddy at the time to listen [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Thing is allmost every car nowaday's have completely roller engine's
Roller rocker's,roller lifter's,roller chain's no need to break them in really as they are completly roller and hydraulic. The only thing that really need's to break is is getting the ring's to seat but I'm pretty sure the Vette and Porsche both have moly ring's that do not need that much to seat.
Maybe that's what he said Nyroc I was too giddy at the time to listen [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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#8
Oil Question for 650 Owners
Originally posted by: nyroc
Don't use synthetic until you have broken it in. Synthetic will make is last longer do to better cold flow and less breakdown under heat. MX4T has extra phosphorus which sticks to parts while the quads sits long periods and helps prevent wear next time you start.
We are supposed to use a wet brake synthetic in our rear diff. I guess yours isn't the same as ours? 80w90 Hypoid woud probably gum it up, or burn up.
We are supposed to use engine oil in the front diff. I guess yours isn't the same as ours? 80w90 Hypoid would make it far too stiff.
Don't use synthetic until you have broken it in. Synthetic will make is last longer do to better cold flow and less breakdown under heat. MX4T has extra phosphorus which sticks to parts while the quads sits long periods and helps prevent wear next time you start.
We are supposed to use a wet brake synthetic in our rear diff. I guess yours isn't the same as ours? 80w90 Hypoid woud probably gum it up, or burn up.
We are supposed to use engine oil in the front diff. I guess yours isn't the same as ours? 80w90 Hypoid would make it far too stiff.
Maybe in front it has to do with the type of gears or the way they are cut.
#9
Oil Question for 650 Owners
Originally posted by: Doctor1
Danw
Thing is allmost every car nowaday's have completely roller engine's
Roller rocker's,roller lifter's,roller chain's no need to break them in really as they are completly roller and hydraulic. The only thing that really need's to break is is getting the ring's to seat but I'm pretty sure the Vette and Porsche both have moly ring's that do not need that much to seat.
Maybe that's what he said Nyroc I was too giddy at the time to listen [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Danw
Thing is allmost every car nowaday's have completely roller engine's
Roller rocker's,roller lifter's,roller chain's no need to break them in really as they are completly roller and hydraulic. The only thing that really need's to break is is getting the ring's to seat but I'm pretty sure the Vette and Porsche both have moly ring's that do not need that much to seat.
Maybe that's what he said Nyroc I was too giddy at the time to listen [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]