I am not that good of tuner but I had the purple secondary and both blue and white primary. Now I have the black sec. and red primary, In acceleration I am not sure which is better. Anybody with first hand knowlege? Thanks

 

go and check out kisssofdeath web site. he did a spring compairson test

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on nyroc's site with kissofdeaths tests of springs, the red seems the best but alot of people are saying go with dalton. confused? Daltons plain white must really shift fast at 114 lbs. while others shift higher than stock which is 136.

 

Well, Im a Dalton fan and Dale "Helix" has helped me and others a lot. But, the EPI Red primary spring is hard to beat for speed. Its all a matter of what you want to do with your atv. I have ran the Dalton Plain/White for almost a year now. If I was going go drag racing I would put the EPI Red in. The Red is just a little harder to control in technical situations where finesse is needed instead of power.

As far as secondarys go, I have ran both the Dalton and EPI Black and cannot tell any difference between the two even though the Dalton is a little bit longer than the EPI and the EPI is a little longer than stock. Shortly, maybe Monday or Tuesday, I will have pictures on my site of all three springs so everyone can see how they look.

 

Thanks kissofdeath, very good info. I should have asked before buying both brands.

 

You're welcome. I have a lot of different springs laying around. Luckily some were gave to me.

 

Hey Kissofdeath, I just started running mud drags and have a P700 with EPI Black secondary spring. Do you think the Red primary would help me out in the mud drags? I'm running 28" Maxxis Mudzilla's. Also hope you don't outbid me on Ebay!

 

I think the red spring would be perfect for that application. Reason being it will raise your engagement and make it easier to start turning the larger/heavier mud tires.

LOL, are you bidding on that HMF pipe from partsdirect? If so, you can win. Actually I was hoping someone would out bid me because I am going to get the new pipe from Diamond G Racing. Although for $175 shipped I would have took the HMF. My max bid was $160. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

Tim, tell me more about Don's pipe? I haven't heard about it? will it be a full system or slip on and how much?

 

I am interested in the new pipes as well.