I am seriously looking at either the King Quad (Suzuki) or the Brute Force. i really like what i see in the brute. I don't like the open and unprotected area under the fenders that exposes the motor to underbrush or whatever. Is the brute EFI? I need the pro's out there to help me make up my mind. Thanks

 

King Quad to new!

650 Brute Force, solid rear axle. Proven engine, proven everthing else since '01

 

No, the brute is not EFI.

 

I have a bf650 and like it alot... They 750 is suppose to be a nice bike also....

As for the KQ, i also like it pretty well...a friend of mine has one but there is just something about it that bothers me...

Not to sure what though just a personal thing i guess...plus i like the solid axle...

 

BF has a lot of aftermarket stuff for performance and so on. You can make splash guards where necessary not a problem.

Suzuki KQ still has a possible reverse failure problem their fix is to reduce the amount of power in reverse. A poor fix IMO. They have an imediate fix for the reverse but yours has go out first then they will replace the faulty gear bushing with a gear and bearing combo, but your reverse must go out first. Suzuki should annouce the reverse failure problem then fix the problem totaly.

 

I am a little concerned about what I've heard about the brute being"tippy". I do a lot of rough riding...steep grades...stumps, inclines etc. what I DON"T need is something that is going to fall over easily.

 

Pastor,
I have had the same problem with tippiness on IRS machines. So far there is not much choice they are very much the same. The greatest problem with an IRS is going up hill they have a greater risk factor going up steep hills. There is one machine that defys tippiness that is a BRP machine called an Outlander. So far they have only made a 400 cc a little deficiant in power for my liking but in the next few months there will be an anouncement of bigger Outlanders. I heard in the range of 3 machines, 500, 650, and 800 twin, more than enough jam. The thing that sets them apart from anyone else is a trailing link suspension. I find when you give full throttle to other mahcines they want to squat on the back and lift the front end. With Outlanders trailing link it will raise the back end and put pressure on the front acts mostly like a shaft drive motorcycle. I would prefer to have this system than any other.

 

Go ride the BF 650, The Prairie 700, and the Suzuki 700.

For the price & performance the BF 650 is hard to beat (Can get it for $5800). The Prairie 700 has same features, a little more power, & is about $500 higher. The BF 650/AKA Prairie 650 platform did not win Quad of the year a few years in a row for no reason. It's a proven and refined machine.

My ONLY Pet Peeve with Kawi is they should have added grease fittings to grease the suspension joints/bushings and bearings over the years, foul, foul, foul.

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I just bought the BF750, prior to that I have ridden on the KQ, Polaris 700EFI, Grizzly 660, and the Rincon. Each has good and bad and all IRS machines will tend to feel tippy until you get used to it. They all lean but that does not mean they are going to tip over. The KQ is a lot like a Grizzly with a slightly lower and stiffer suspension. The Rincon handles real well but is limited by ground clearance and a weak motor with no low range. Polaris are heavy and cushy like driving a big couch. I now have 100 miles on my BF and its been good. Power is there all the time and it has a very solid ride that I like. The steering is moderately stiff and requires two hands in the rough stuff. I ride lots of rocks and hills and so far I feel more comfortable on the BF then either the Grizz or the KQ. The KQ has a funky off idle hesitation that was hard to get used to when I was boulder crawling. The BF sits high, but the weight feels like its distributed well. What people need to understand is that the center of gravity of the rider shifts to the floor board as soon as you stand up. So no matter how high the seat is you can redistribute the CG by simply standing up and then all quads become equal.

 

Ive heard that the new KQ has alot of mechanical issues. Something in the tranny with the reverse? I could be wrong... Its just what I heard.