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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Can I run a Dyna CDI and my 4 deg key together? I am wanting to get a CDI but am not willing to open the motor back up to swap keys.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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the dyna and degree key may be too much timing, not really sure they will work together.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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any truth to this?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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i'll look into this a little further for ya!
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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you can program the VDI to take the 4* into account.

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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Thanks for the replys guys. I knew about the VDI but don't wanna spend that much. This bike will never get cams, high comp pistons, or a BBK so the VDI would be wasted.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:39 AM
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hey, this is what i found on the highlifter forum!


"The Dyna CDI is already 34 degrees and going above 37 degrees can actually hurt performance and engine. I would not add a key at all from experience with my prairie. I removed my 4 degree key for better performance with the dynatek cdi.
If you get the copperhead you can retard the cdi to work with a 6 degree key. The dyno's I've seen above 36 degrees had no performance increase and it is dangerous."

also found that the key also does not work well with a module either, like the Highlifter, Moose, or DG5. the bike will hardly run because of too much timing!
 
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by: grizzkiller
hey, this is what i found on the highlifter forum!
also found that the key also does not work well with a module either, like the Highlifter, Moose, or DG5. the bike will hardly run because of too much timing!
Incorrect.
You can run a degree key and any module together with no problems.
Myself and many others do. A 4 degree key and a module will only give 32 degrees advance. The module has no effect on maximum timing advance, the factory CDI is limited to 28 deg, a module does nothing to change that.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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i was just stating what someone elses expierience was. they had a BF650 sra with a degree key(ran great) and added a Highlifter module and the bike would barely run(said it would hardly go down the road). the module was put into another bike and it operated fine. so, they concluded that a module could not be run with a degee key. i dont know much about the timing, keys, and such. i was looking for info for someone else. seems that some can and some cant, kinda like the miss the DYNA CDI produces on some BF750's and not on other BF750's.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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So would I see an increase in performance by taking out the key and put in the Dyna? I am at 32 degs now and would be going to 34 degs. Is it worth it?
 
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