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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 12:41 AM
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My father-in-law just told me he got my son (7yrs. old) a 4 wheeler. I said GREAT! It's an Extreme Machine 90 he said. Two stroke, oil injected. Hand brakes on each side with no foot brake. He said it's white and big enough for him to ride, he's rode it! He's about 5' 10", 215lbs. $1300 with about 4hrs use on it. Not sure of the year model, '00 or '01. Sounds good to me, but I don't know much about it. Guy bought it for his little girl, she rode it a couple of times and didn't want to get back on it. He's a 15yr friend of his. I'm excited to ride with the boy I can tell you that.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 12:43 AM
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Oh yeah, gas-and-go, no shifting. I haven't seen it yet, but sounds like a lot of fun to me.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 08:31 AM
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if you've not ridden with the boy yet, man the fun is just beginning.

My riding partner is my son, He's eleven and has been riding for four years now. I can't tell you about how much fun it is.
Your going to half to have a good bit of patients at seven, but the time summer rolls around, your going to love it.

This past year my daughter, who's nine has taken to the quads like I would not have ever believed.
I have to get her one, she rides the lakota now. I just can't seem to make a dicision on one, thier so damn expensive. Now for $1300 I believe I would jump.

I guess I should start looking used, just new for kids keeps me riden instead of working on them, not to mention we now have one quad and three bikes. Oh did I mention I have four kids and one on the way, oh did I mention, I hate kids. (joke)
 
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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 09:58 AM
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The Extreme Machine was made by a guy named Mr. Lane. He took a Honda TRX 90 and fitted it with 2 stroke engine then had a company in Asia build it. That was the first Eton. Now he makes the Extreme Machine.

I have tested the 50 and 90cc atv's made by such companies as Suzuki, Eton, Polairs, Aeon, Sundiro, T-Rex, Blazer, Jehm, Estreme Machine, Kasea, Husky, Artic Cat, LEM and other manufacturers. Of the many atv manufacturers I believe that Kasea offers features that go beyond the “other guys.”

Virtually all (except the LEM and SUzuki LT50) of the youth atv’s are equipped with fully automatic CVT transmissions and a 2 stroke oil injected engine, the features that make Kasea superior to other youth atv’s begin here:

Front suspension
The Kasea front suspension is much stronger than that of Suzuki, Eton, Polairs, Aeon, Sundiro, T-Rex, Blazer, Jehm, Estreme Machine, Husky, Artic Cat, LEM . The Kasea uses a double clevis style knuckle holder rather than the more common single holder. We believe that only Suzuki uses the same strong design as Kasea on the front suspension a-arms.

Rear suspension
The Kasea has the strongest youth atv rear swing arm and axle design on the market. It is a copy of the trusted design used by Yamaha on their performance atv’s since the early 1980’s. No other youth atv has this strong of a rear suspension – it is simply the best. Many of the other youth atv’s don’t even offer a true sport atv style rear axle. We have found most youth atv’s have a rear axle that is a thin metal shaft covered with tubing. Not only is the tube covered design weaker, it allows water to easily enter the carrier bearing area. Other youth atv’s such as the Suzuki Lt-80 and an Eton atv model do not even use a traditional rear swing arm. They elected to make the engine and transmission serve as the rear swing arm. The Suzuki and Eton design causes handling problems and is very difficult to modify for increased performance.

Shock absorbers
Kasea built their atv’s with true rebound dampening Showa shocks that also feature compression preload spring adjusters. No other youth atv on the market offers rebound dampening on their atv’s – not even Suzuki. This is a very important safety feature that is often overlooked. When the Kasea is ridden over a large sudden bump, the rebound dampening helps prevent the atv from “bucking” forward as the shock returns to its normal height.

Braking system
Kasea offers a traditional rear foot brake in addition to the front hand brake. This will allow your young rider to learn the proper use of hand and foot controls so they will be ready to advance to a full size atv with a manual clutch without relearning their riding technique. It also has a rear hand brake that I suggest you remove.

Optional lighting
We believe that only the Kasea is equipped with a 80 watt lighting coil and is pre-wired for lighting from the factory. All you need to do is purchase the Kasea lighting set that is found as standard equipment on the Kasea 150 atv or simply mount your own lights to the existing wiring. The key switch uses a third position to turn on the lights. Kasea even pre wired for a rear safety light and lighting for your whip antenna. No other youth atv on the market has this much lighting capability. If you want to add lighting to the Suzuki LT80, you will need a special electrical stator and wiring at a substantial cost. LT80 lighting kits that run off the battery only will result in a dead battery and a long walk home.

Starting
Kasea, like most other youth atv’s, offers electric starting with a manual back up kick starter and a fully automatic choke. Kasea studied the other atv’s and took the ease of starting one step further. They added an automatic fuel valve. When the engine starts, the fuel is automatically turned on. When the engine stops, the fuel is automatically shut off. In comparison, the Suzuki and LEM have manual chokes and all other youth atv’s have manual fuel valves. We also note that if you want to add a manual back up starter to the Suzuki, it is a pull rope recoil starter that will cost an additional $80. In the unlikely event that you ever need a replacement electric starter for the Kasea, it will cost about $50 and can be installed in 5 minutes. The Suzuki starter costs about $250 and will require hours of labor to complete the installation.

Rim sizes
Here, you can easily install replacement rims of your choice! The front hubs use the common 4/110 bolt pattern and the rear uses the common 4/100 bolt pattern.

General Parts
Since most of the youth atv engines are similar, finding parts is usually not a problem. If you need gaskets, air filters, batteries, spark plugs, chain, tires or some basic engine components, the Eton, Polairs, Aeon, Sundiro, T-Rex, Jehm or Kasea will interchange.

Performance

When you want to step up on performance, I have just about any performance part that you may need including replacement large bore cylinders, cylinder porting, custom billet aluminum cylinder heads, special over range transmissions, custom exhaust systems, performance carburetors, lighting kits, ignition systems, extended swing arms, wider a-arms, shock absorber kits and various tire and rim options.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 10:13 AM
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Raptor720,

What do you think of E-ton's Yukon 150? I'm looking for a machine for my nephew who needs a machine that can make it through some of the rough stuff around here. Any experience with this model?

Thanks,
 
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 10:37 AM
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I have not yet seen the Eton 150. I have seen the Kasea 150 and I believe that it is underpowered. Kasea is introducing a 250 twin cylinder 4 stroke in the Blaster frame in a couple of months. The engine is the old Honda Rebel 250 twin. I expect that with some performance mods, the 250 will be a nice atv with a great low price.

If you cannot wait, the 250ex is something that may cost more but suit your needs.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 11:54 AM
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Raptor720,
Thanks for all the input. That little Kasea looks really cool too. What is your opinion of the machine that my father in law has already purchased? Is is problem prone? Is it fast as far as the 90's go? Is the suspension up to par? What all problems and complaints do you have with this machine? Again, I believe it's a '00 or '01 model. Thanks again for all your input.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 12:31 PM
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First off, the price is right.

Here are the areas of concern.

1. The front a-arms use a single weld point at the clevis pin. I have seen this identical design fail on other youth atv's. Kasea and Suzuki use double clevis pin design -- never seen one fail.

2. The shocks are what I call pogo sticks. They are little more than a spring. The Kasea has rebound and compression dampening. This is critical to the safety of the rider. Although better than the LT80 and it's ability to mouse trap the rider, the Xtreme Machine still suffers from poor quality shocks.

3. Lack of a location for lights or a sufficient lighting coil.

Xtreme Machines do appear to have one of the better parts distribution networks of minis. This is one area Kasea needs a lesson. What is nice about the minis (except the Husky, LEM and Suzuki) is that most of the critical engine parts directly interchange from one mini to another. SO if a part is not available, just go to another brand dealer. I like to buy engine parts from Polaris. The only engine part that differs from one youth atv to another is the length of the drive belt -- 12" or 10" engine design.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2001 | 01:05 AM
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Stebob-glad to here about chistan? new ride. It has to be better than a badger. The badger has no shock movement. I left you a message in the one that has 40plus replies. How are you going to get the extreme machine home?

Looks like you better start looking for that 3rd quad, so you can make it a family affair.

What is up with the boat?

Did you ever get to ride the canondale?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2001 | 01:28 AM
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Hey 14! Sorry! I didn't see your other post. Yeah, pretty excited about the boy's new ride. My father in law is going to keep it at his house. He already has it, just hidding it 'till Christmas. I hate to ask my buddies dad if I can keep Christians at his house too. My boat and quad are out there.

The boat? Well, the boat is the boat. I can't fix the pump. New one is $527. I'll have to wait a little while for that. Too many other things to do right now. My tv went out on me, so I had to replace that. I got a 50" HD ready Mitsubishi. It's a sweethear [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]. Got a damn good deal on it.

I never did ride the Cannondale. The guy who offered happens to be dealer in Bedford. About an hour away. He wants to sell me one I'm sure. I just want to see what it's like. I'm sure I could prob. ride it anytime. He goes to Badlands alot too. I haven't been there since before we came down and saw ya'll though. Just haven't had the time. I've hardly riden at all.

How is the track these days? Done anymore to the Raptor? I recall you getting ready to go to Kermit or somewhere. How was it? Been aware else?
 
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